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Old 09-08-2007, 09:40 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Yeah definitely just put the poll in the other thread cause these are identical.
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yeah hammil got screwed. but i think mike won the 3rd round. but i may have to rewatch it.
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Its funny, but I think it questions the way we question advantages. For example maybe its not wrong to make a challenger prove he is better than the contender he is fighting. In the words of F.X. Toole Hamil was brought in "to be the opponent, and being the opponent means you lose." And in Hendo's example, he clearly won the first two rounds, but when it came to the pivotal third did he do enough? Was it wrong to make the challenger bring a game that was notably higher than the contender? Is it wrong to ask the person expected to lose to do enough to erase the predisposition in the judges head? These are the questions we need to honestly answer as fans of the sport.

It seems silly in the end, but it reality is it wrong to make people fight against the human desire to pick a "winner" before hand?
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didn't anybody notice the fact that bisping actually did land alot more shots in the 2nd and 3rd rounds?? and when hamill did take him down he didn't do anything??? and like the other dude said, bisping always got up... i don't understand why its so hard to beleive that bisping actually won in points (those were nevada judges btw)
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Maybe Rogan got in trouble for voicing his opinion on the Guida/Griffin fight.
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HAMMILL was ROBBED. If that fight had taken place on US Soil The "Count" wouldve been handed his first loss. Hammill clearly controlled the stand up and the ground in the first round and cut open Bisping quite easily. The second go either way, but for most of the third Matt had Bisping undercontrol, kept bringing the fight and had him taken to the ground TWICE while connecting on blows. This is definitely up there with the Forrest-Tito fight for screwjobs... UFC Hype won Bispng this fight.
Agree 100%. He was robbed for sure. And what a cocky asshole Bisping is!!
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I think KraziKarl summed up the only half logical argument I could possibly see the judges using for that BULLSHIT scoring. I obviously do not agree with them at all, but those turds will run with it till they're blue in the face.

No question Hamill should have done more with his handful of successful takedowns, but it wasn't exactly all lay and pray either. The couple times he let Bisping up were a surprise to me. Was he worried about getting subbed or was he giving his own stand-up that much credit? He definitely did a hell of a lot more damage and controlled the majority of the fight regardless...

Bullshit victory. BULLSHIT.
lots of good theories throughout this thread with only 1 person defending the decision. hamill was robbed, clearly Bisping knew it too
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Personally I think this should be the last time Bisping fights in England for a while. Hamill clearly won that fight. Adds steam to UFC not letting Fedor fight in Russia. I know that is totally off topic but seems relevant with fighters in their home countries getting special treatment from judges even though I know they weren't british judges.
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Im drunk, but I still think its rigged. More and More I think this bullshit is like pride.


Motherfuckers make money on sports betting. England and Vegas......with boxing dissolving the UFC is the new money maker......


maybe Im crazy or....
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didn't anybody notice the fact that bisping actually did land alot more shots in the 2nd and 3rd rounds?? and when hamill did take him down he didn't do anything??? and like the other dude said, bisping always got up... i don't understand why its so hard to beleive that bisping actually won in points (those were nevada judges btw)
Pre-announcement of the winner Bisping looked scared. Post announcement Bisping looked incredibly relieved. That was not the look of someone who won a spilt decision, but the look of someone who clearly lost.
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