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Why did they have these? I just dont get it, why would you have a champion fight and not put his belt on the line, fedors only had 3 title defenses, wands had 4 and theve both been champions for over 4 years. And like when arona beat silva at final conflict 04, or when auerilo beat gomi, they didnt win the belts. How could you have a guy walking around claiming hes the champion when he just got beat?
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I dont know but they did it often and it was a pain in the ass and I saw no point in it. I mean these fighters are only able to fight so many times a year so every fight should be for the title. Well anyways thats obviously in the past.
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I liked the non title bouts because not every fighter deserves a chance at the belt...cough Serra...cough. But it was also good to keep fighters active that way fighter fight 5 times a year instead of 3 which I find terrible. Concerning Arona and Silva, that was for a different belt and the MW belt wasnt up for grabs.
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I liked the non title bouts because not every fighter deserves a chance at the belt...cough Serra...cough. But it was also good to keep fighters active that way fighter fight 5 times a year instead of 3 which I find terrible. Concerning Arona and Silva, that was for a different belt and the MW belt wasnt up for grabs.
Lol how can you say serra didnt deserve a title shot, he knocked GSP the fuck out!
And yes I realize that for for the GP belt but still, to have a guy beat you when your conisderd the king of that weight division, dosent make sense to me
And yes I realize not every guy deserves a title shot but when the champion gets beat, thats a different story
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I can understand why they did it, but I don't agree with it.

If a certain champ wipes out a division of all the top talent then the only ones left are the mid carders who are just looking for a chance to prove themselves. One part of me doesn't want to see these in the UFC but another part of me would have loved to see Serra vs Anyone before TUF started just to see him get his butt kicked rather then the 8 month lay off. Now he can say he's held the UFC WW belt for the better part of a year *shudders* Sorry, i just don't like the guy.
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Lol how can you say serra didnt deserve a title shot, he knocked GSP the fuck out!
And yes I realize that for for the GP belt but still, to have a guy beat you when your conisderd the king of that weight division, dosent make sense to me
And yes I realize not every guy deserves a title shot but when the champion gets beat, thats a different story

serra didnt deserve a shot to even get the chance to fight gsp...
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serra didnt deserve a shot to even get the chance to fight gsp...
I can see were your coming from, but the problem is, he beat GSP. If theres a guy out there that can beat the current champion, he deserves to be the champion. It was a shitty way to get a title shot though, just from a TV show.
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Why did they have these? I just dont get it, why would you have a champion fight and not put his belt on the line, fedors only had 3 title defenses, wands had 4 and theve both been champions for over 4 years. And like when arona beat silva at final conflict 04, or when auerilo beat gomi, they didnt win the belts. How could you have a guy walking around claiming hes the champion when he just got beat?
back to his question. Silva Arona 1 was for the middleweight GP if im not mistaken. Thats why the belt wasnt on the line, it was a tournament fight.
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The fact that Serra knocked G.S.P. out shows he was deserving of a title shot. That and the fact that he won season 4 (which stipulated the winner was guaranteed a title shot!)
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I hated watching arulieo(?) sub gomi unconcious and then watch gomi leave with the belt, i always thought that was stupid.

IMO i dont know why they even had a champ fight if it wasnt for the title(GP's and Not cutting weight aside).

Someone else said it's because they ran trough the division so theres no one else, IMO if that ever happened and a mid-level fighter got the chance to fight the champ it SHOULD be for the title,we've seen this a couple times in the UFC(Nate Quarry being a good one in mind)No way in hell did he "deserve" a title shot but at the time there was no one for Frankling so Quarry got a crack at it.

No champ should fight without defending the title and in a perfect world the champ would have to defend his belt a minimum of 3x a year(unless of course thiers injuries or someone not cutting weight)

No more of this serra carrying the strap for almost a year without defending it bullshit, that needs to stop soon. I got no problem that he beat gsp and he's the champ cuz if you KO the champ-GSP like that then you deserve the title, I'd just like to see him fight again or see the belt get defended
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