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I guess I need to watch the fight again, I gave Karo the first 2 rounds and Diego the 3rd round. !st round was in question but IMO Karo took that round. Round 2 clearly Karo and round 3 clearly Diego.
1st round couldnt went either way but Diego did more damage IMO. I would give Karo a 10-9 rd in 2 those slams and throws were top notch. But then in the 3d i thought Diego dominated enough to warrant a 10-8 rd. I dont think there is any valid way to agrue Karo won the fight honestly. Did you look at the two fighters after the fight?
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1st round couldnt went either way but Diego did more damage IMO. I would give Karo a 10-9 rd in 2 those slams and throws were top notch. But then in the 3d i thought Diego dominated enough to warrant a 10-8 rd. I dont think there is any valid way to agrue Karo won the fight honestly. Did you look at the two fighters after the fight?

Yes certainly Diego inflicted more dmage but since when has that warranted a victory? Bj Penn inflicted omre damage than GSP and GSP still won the fight.

In addition, I don't think MMA works like boxing, I think it is always a 1 point difference and never a 2 point difference. Could be wrong but Rogan and many others are in belief that the scoring system is per round with only a 1 point differential. Again I could be wrong, not sure on the point system.

1st round other than that nice uppercut Diego landed at the very beginning of the fight, I thought Karo landed more strikes and takedowns which should've given him round 1.

Also regarding the dmage factor, I think Diego does not bruise like Karo and other fighters do, some fighters swell and bruise much easier than others and I don't think Diego has ever shown real signs of damage even in the Diaz fight where he ate some big punches.

Nonetheless, Diego looked very impressive, unfortunately I still see GSP and Hughes at the top of the pedistal and on a completely differnt level than any other WW in UFC. Diego is very fast but Hughes and GSP are as well and they are much stronger than Diego, Sanchez' relentlessness could play a factor in wearing down GSP or Hughes but that is their game as well so I do not see it happening.

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it was a great fight and pretty close till the end but Karo Gassed and looked weak in the end...im happy that diego is climbing the ranks...whether you like him or don't just like tito you some want to see him kick ass and others want to see him get his ass kicked. Either way you get more excited before the fight and that's good. While some didn't like his staredown I had a thread that backed him up on it. Again it's add hype to a fight and if every fighter didn't talk trash and was the classy competitor it wouldn't be as interesting as a fight. The time to be classy is after a good fight because i trell you if i know someone's goal is to punish me or knock me out....beleive me he's getting a bad look before the fight. Karo might of been smiling before but now hes gonna be smiling with a missing tooth
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In addition, I don't think MMA works like boxing, I think it is always a 1 point difference and never a 2 point difference. Could be wrong but Rogan and many others are in belief that the scoring system is per round with only a 1 point differential. Again I could be wrong, not sure on the point system.

Nonetheless, Diego looked very impressive, unfortunately I still see GSP and Hughes at the top of the pedistal and on a completely differnt level than any other WW in UFC. Diego is very fast but Hughes and GSP are as well and they are much stronger than Diego, Sanchez' relentlessness could play a factor in wearing down GSP or Hughes but that is their game as well so I do not see it happening.

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Well you are wrong. A fighter can win a round 10-8 if he is very dominate. And as far as Diego wearing Hughes or GSP down. It could happen. GSP and Hughes are also know for wearing ppl down but so is Karo and Diego obviously wore him down. I think Diego would have a better chance against Penn at this point bc he could wear him down much easier than Hughes or GSP. Penn gassed in the GSP fight and that probley cost him the fight.
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The Legend is right a very dominant round can score you a 10-8 but it 's very hard to get one. As for fighting the top contenders i actually think Penn is the strongest starter is Bj penn in that division. He did really well first round against Gsp but with incredible heart and stamin gsp came back to win the fight. if Penn works hard on his cardio he would be extremely dangerous. I like Diego a lot but i think Gsp will take the title his first defence should be against Penn. One more win for diego against a top condender will earn him a title shot in my mind
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Yes certainly Diego inflicted more dmage but since when has that warranted a victory? Bj Penn inflicted omre damage than GSP and GSP still won the fight.

In addition, I don't think MMA works like boxing, I think it is always a 1 point difference and never a 2 point difference. Could be wrong but Rogan and many others are in belief that the scoring system is per round with only a 1 point differential. Again I could be wrong, not sure on the point system.

1st round other than that nice uppercut Diego landed at the very beginning of the fight, I thought Karo landed more strikes and takedowns which should've given him round 1.

Also regarding the dmage factor, I think Diego does not bruise like Karo and other fighters do, some fighters swell and bruise much easier than others and I don't think Diego has ever shown real signs of damage even in the Diaz fight where he ate some big punches.

Nonetheless, Diego looked very impressive, unfortunately I still see GSP and Hughes at the top of the pedistal and on a completely differnt level than any other WW in UFC. Diego is very fast but Hughes and GSP are as well and they are much stronger than Diego, Sanchez' relentlessness could play a factor in wearing down GSP or Hughes but that is their game as well so I do not see it happening.

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I wont saying you decide a whole fight by damage, but in a round as close as the 1st the visible damage is more then likely goin to be the deciding factor. And now that the whole 10-8 thing has been cleared up, i would defiently give Diego a 10-8 round the 3rd.
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i was shocked that Diego had improved so much with his ground skills.

and as for diego calling judo crap.... i saw a few incredible take downs.
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I wont saying you decide a whole fight by damage, but in a round as close as the 1st the visible damage is more then likely goin to be the deciding factor. And now that the whole 10-8 thing has been cleared up, i would defiently give Diego a 10-8 round the 3rd.
I watched the fight on the replay and ill probley watch it 3 or 4 more times tomarrow. But my opinion right now is that the 3rd round and the fight could have went to Karo if he had landed on top after that last judo throw towards the end of the round. If he had then he could have stayed on top and did some GnP. However, Diego landed on top and did just that resulting in him getting the decision. And i would like to know what fight the 3rd judge was watching bc he gave it to Diego 30-26. That fight was 29-28 and imo the outcome wasnt decided untill the last 2 minutes of the fight.
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ok so Diego beat Karo. who is next for him then? he has BJ or the winner of Hughes/St. Pierre...if you think he can beat any of them you're crazy! I'd say since him and Koscheck are on good streaks right now, have them rematch each other from the show. as much as i hate both of them, that's a fight id love to see!
Dude HELLO THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE SAID ABOUT KARO! NO WAY DIEGO COULD BE KARO BUT GUESS WHAT HE DID DIDN'T HE! :banghead: :banghead:
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Diego really impressed me in this fight. His best fight in the UFC by far, also the biggest win of his career. I thought the fight could of gone either way in the judges eyes. I don't know what the judge that had it 30-26 was smoking though. It must of been Cecil Peoples, he's notorious for crazy score cards.
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