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[bigdaddy]

Ufc 60 was fixed.
No way royce lost to matt so easy.
Someone got payed off gracie looked upset even before he came out.
This sport is soley based now on revenue to promote not skill.
matt hughes is a redneck wrestler and gracies fight 200 plus people .
someone is being payed off. hell the promotion or hype was better than the event. everyone in the staples center was ticked off and looking for a refund.
UFC needs fedor to come over from pride so he can rip chuck lidell
A NEW ONE

[Tystick357]

You are either a troll trying to get a rise out of people or are obviously not the brightest knife in the kitchen.

Fedor and Chuck aren't in the same division, so how about you say Sylvia or Arlovski?

[Kass101]

looks like we have a troll everyone delete please

[GracieAlumni]

Originally Posted by bigdaddy

Ufc 60 was fixed.
No way royce lost to matt so easy.
Someone got payed off gracie looked upset even before he came out.
This sport is soley based now on revenue to promote not skill.
matt hughes is a redneck wrestler and gracies fight 200 plus people .
someone is being payed off. hell the promotion or hype was better than the event. everyone in the staples center was ticked off and looking for a refund.
UFC needs fedor to come over from pride so he can rip chuck lidell
A NEW ONE

No buddy a Gracie wont be paid off EVER... He just got his ass handed to him by a better fighter...

[NinjaShogunRua]

I don't know if this is supposed to be a joke or what, but Gracie has too much honor to get paid off to rig a fight. He also is rich and gets paid well for each fight. He got beat by a better fighter, he had a submission's chance and that was about it. His stand up did look improved but Hughes is just too strong for him and dominated him on the ground.

[bigdaddy]

I respect your view of it yet you must admit it ended to quickly.
age is never a factor when you have mastered submissions.
and to give someone like hughes your back is a setup!!
these promoters want to make money and were all pawns in an
unbelievable game of trickery. No one knows what happens behind
closed doors in quiet rooms with men and check books in suits
and ties. it all is weird. I think so many people in martial arts get
so wrapped up in the hype that they dont stop to think about the owners
that are making hand over fist money from these crazy promotions like ufc 60.
there is no way a seasoned master of jujitsu would have ever given his back to a wrestler never. I ll never believe it but I will say that tito will beat ken again and chuck lidell will beat most yet not fedor!!

[GracieAlumni]

Originally Posted by bigdaddy

I respect your view of it yet you must admit it ended to quickly.
age is never a factor when you have mastered submissions.
and to give someone like hughes your back is a setup!!
these promoters want to make money and were all pawns in an
unbelievable game of trickery. No one knows what happens behind
closed doors in quiet rooms with men and check books in suits
and ties. it all is weird. I think so many people in martial arts get
so wrapped up in the hype that they dont stop to think about the owners
that are making hand over fist money from these crazy promotions like ufc 60.
there is no way a seasoned master of jujitsu would have ever given his back to a wrestler never. I ll never believe it but I will say that tito will beat ken again and chuck lidell will beat most yet not fedor!!

well when a guy dominates you to Side mount position and nearly breaks your arm off youre gonna do something stupid...

[Kass101]

the one thing that proves this fight wasnt fixed was that it ended to quickly. they hyped the fight more then any fight ever and if it was fixed it wouldnt have ended as quick as it did its stupid. the point is if both fighters knew who the winner was gonna be they would have made it look better.

[Tystick357]

Man if you really aren't joking and you really think it was rigged, just relax. Like Kass said, if they fixed the fight it wouldn't have been that one sided anyways. And like I said, if you are being truthful, you conspiracy theorists need to calm the hell down. You may be right some of the time, but all you do most of the time is just make a damn mountain out of a molehill when nothing is there.

[bigdaddy]

An arm bar or kemora would easily been predicted by gracie.
The only thing I can say is if it was not a set up is gracie had to
take a dump and he needed an excuse to go to the bathroom.
UUUUH No. Matt hughes is very cocky and he thinks hes unbeatable
and thats what promotes fights. the worst martial artist ever is jean claude
van dumb yet even he would have not given his back or let some wrestler
lock his arm. we all were watching it here in atlanta ga saying set up!
I have a black belt in aikido and study tai boxing and I would have not let that
happen so easily even though I might lose to matt hughes as well!
he is good but someone must prove that some fights are not fixed for
promotion.