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[Kewl144]

Originally Posted by killerinstinct

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/aggression

I asked you to define it as it relates to an MMA fight. So please, try again.

[ortiz#1]

diego is the real deal on real all the haters on this guy all he does is WIN!!!

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by Masscore

I have said this 1000 times in the past couple of days. Rule One when fighitng a wrestler, never give them your back. If that had been Kos, Hughes, or Sherk, the fight would have been over in the 2 minutes. Sanchez just isnt a top of the line wrestler like those three. You guys need to get over that Judo shit. It didnt work well for Hideoko(sp?) against Cro Cop and it didnt work well against Sanchez. Sure you can throw a wrestler, but if you dont know how to hold them down, it doesnt do you much. Cause guess what, wrestlers get thrown all the time. Greco-Roman wrestling is all about throws, so you know what, a judo throw isnt going to scare them. And if you dont know how to hold them down it doesnt do much.

To even say that a throw doesn't do much is assinine, your point of view on this fight and i'm sure many others is distorted, your ceredibility tarnished and your credintials inept.

Yes yes, you're right, when Karo threw Diego on his head it didn't do much, infact it felt great, it was more like a chiropractic adustment than any phyisical pain. I know I like it when people throw me with great force and I land with my body weight ontop of my head.

You're just an idiot, please leave it at that, I will destroy you in a debate as you really do know so very little about MMA fights in general.

[Hypergit]

Originally Posted by Kewl144

Round two was easily Diego's. He was more active, more aggressive, did more damage and well...he did a lot more than Karo did. It's not an opinion, it's simply a fact.

The only fact I can see from that paragraph is that you are actually Diego in disguise (or at least his lover).

Here's a cut and paste from the other thread that shows not only was it not 'easily Diego's round' but it was 'easily' Karo's:

Originally Posted by Hypergit

minute 1:
Absolute domination by Karo in standup - lots of good head shots, Diego consistently on the back foot. Huge slam at the 1 min mark.

minute 2:
All Karo again. Decent lnp/gnp with several good punches and elbows, Diego attempts an impromptu kneebar but is easily escaped by Karo, who resumes the dominant position against the fence.

minute 3:
Both men look tired - sloppy standup battle ensues, with Diego getting the better of Karo in the weak exchanges. Weak takedown eventually into Karo's guard then some good rib punches.

minute 4:
Diego lnp/gnp with a few nice shots, but mosly nullified by Karo's guard. Nice knee at the minute mark in thai clinch.

minute 5:
Karo lands some nice standup shots, then lnp until the round closes.

Summary:

Total Karo domination for the first two minutes, next two minutes to Diego (but 3rd minute esp. is nowhere near as dominant as Karo's first two). Karo easily takes the final minute.

Round to Karo, no doubt at all.

tyty

git.

[Intellectual]

co-sign with the above statement.

Karo should have won by split.

[Nate_Deezy]

Alright...I'm coming in here neutral, as I might be the only fan of Diego and Karo on this board. Yeah Karo may be a more skilled fighter in some respects, but Diego's pure strength and unorthodox techniques (to say the least) were just too much for him that night. A lot of people will make the argument that Karo only lost cuz he took a punch to the eye at the beginning of the fight. But think about how ridiculous that sounds.

"He got punched in an mma fight? Diego should be disqualified!"

Getting punched in the face, or in this case the eye, is just an aspect of fighting. To say someone lost simply because of a "lucky punch" is like saying "the Bulls only keep losing because their opponents always make more baskets than they do!"

I love Karo...he is one of the most entertaining fighters out there to watch. It was just Diego's night. He was in better condition, he was more prepared to have a war, and he really pulled it out at the end of the fight when he needed to. Karo will bounce back, and have more great fights. Maybe even a rematch. I just think with the state of mind Diego is in right now and the momentum he has from his current winning streak, he might be too much for The Heat, and potentially, anyone else in the welterweight division.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

To even say that a throw doesn't do much is assinine, your point of view on this fight and i'm sure many others is distorted, your ceredibility tarnished and your credintials inept.

Yes yes, you're right, when Karo threw Diego on his head it didn't do much, infact it felt great, it was more like a chiropractic adustment than any phyisical pain. I know I like it when people throw me with great force and I land with my body weight ontop of my head.

You're just an idiot, please leave it at that, I will destroy you in a debate as you really do know so very little about MMA fights in general.

You were kind of harsh on the guy ,but you're absolutely correct.

[Kewl144]

Originally Posted by Hypergit

The only fact I can see from that paragraph is that you are actually Diego in disguise (or at least his lover).

Here's a cut and paste from the other thread that shows not only was it not 'easily Diego's round' but it was 'easily' Karo's:

aww insults already? I already posted what happened that would garner points. And yes it was easily Diego's round. I suppose you'll never accept it, but maybe in time you'll actually understand how a MMA fight is scored.

[The Ironman]

Even thou Diego won by dec. I thought he was in control most of the whole fight, like someone earlier said Diego took his back like 4 times, which seemed like he was doing at will everytime they went to the ground. Didn't Diego almost choke him out at one point in the third round? That was the the end of it...Diego was beating him to the punch when they were in stand up after that choke ....it took everything out of karo, and Give Diego props for that wicked 3rd round knee to the face and knocking Karo's tooth out!! I think Diego is great fighter but it's his speed that really alowed him to stay out any real danger in the Karo fight. I don't think Diego is quite ready for Hughes....but with that said he maybe getting his shot within the next year

[Hypergit]

Originally Posted by Nate_Deezy

A lot of people will make the argument that Karo only lost cuz he took a punch to the eye at the beginning of the fight.

I'm not. I'm making the arguement that he won 29-28, and a UD to Diego was a terrible decision.

Originally Posted by Kewl144

aww insults already? I already posted what happened that would garner points. And yes it was easily Diego's round. I suppose you'll never accept it

I haven't insulted you yet, but here's one just for your ignorance of my entire post:

you are being fucking absurd!

unless you can reason the following in light of my analysis then you are not worth speaking to on this issue:

Originally Posted by Kewl144

[in round 2] Diego was more active, more aggressive, did more damage and well...he did a lot more than Karo did. It's not an opinion, it's simply a fact.

As I have shown, he was less actice, less aggressive, and the damage he did was not noticable or relevant.

Originally Posted by The Ironman

Diego took his back like 4 times, which seemed like he was doing at will everytime they went to the ground.

As I have explained previously, this was not due to Diego's dominance, but Karo's defencive tactics.

As a judoka, he is adept at having an opp on his back, but less so on his chest. This shows as he sustained very little damage when his back was taken until he was completely gassed at the end - he sustained more damage with a JJ guard in this fight.

It is not a more dominant position than being on Karo's chest if Karo has chosen it instead to -reduce- damage.

git.