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Old 10-02-2007, 02:16 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I don't bash Kongo but his performance is being badly exaggerated. He didn't do anything that impressive to me. Cro Cop just looked like shit in the first round and looked even worse in rounds 2-3. You can tell when Cro Cop is not at 100% mentally. He fights slow and walks around the ring. You can see this in his first fight with Wanderlei, his fights in the UFC, and his fight with Kanehara after the Randleman KO. The Cro Cop who showed up for Kongo would be murdered by Aleks. When Cro Cop is at his best, he jumps in, lands a shot, and jumps out of reach like a bunny rabbit on crack. Speed and jumping in/out of range are Cro Cop's biggest strengths. He used neither of them against Kongo, and Kongo still got oustruck and taken down in the first round.


If Kongo and Cro Cop traded and Kongo was getting the better of some technical exchanges, I'd be impressed. Pounding Cro Cop in the clinch when he's just standing there doesn't make Kongo a world class striker in my view.

I see Kongo's fight with Assuerio, not Cro Cop, as his most impressive display of striking. And he's still been beaten by Gilbert Yvel whose striking is certainly not top notch by K-1 standards.
No shit,WTF is he bragging about??? He didn't even have 2 do a fucken thing 2 win that fight w/ CC. It seemed like CC's was throwin' that fight because he absolutely did nothing @ all,but Kongo sure the fuck didn't do a helluva lot more.I don't think U could find 1 highlight outta that fight for a Kongo promo,& the fight w/ A.Silva.........that was even fucken worse.When I'm having trouble sleeping I just plug that fight in & presto,I'm asleep in seconds. Works like a charm every time!!!!!!!
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:22 PM   #42 (permalink)
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he comes off a bit arrogant. hopefully Nog will teach him a lesson.
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was it just me or does he come off as a really really boring interview.. i was reading this and expected like some elaboration.. but really i was bored when reading this i cant imagine being the reporter and getting 1-2 line answers... but it was an impressive win but he is not that great of a fighter on the ground that we have seen... if he is against Big Nog then he is royally effed
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Kongo is coming off as a bit of a mouth with some of his quotes.
exactly what i was thinking...i can't wait until Nogueira humbles him a bit
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I'm gonna love to hear everyones excuse when Kongo KOs Nog. Man I would love to hear the excuses.

There is no way he will knock out NOG... The only people he has knocked out in MMA are mid to low level fighters....

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Yeah, and what the fuck is this with everyone saying he's got this "improved ground game".......I didn't fuckin see it!
Me either! the only thing that improves him is his, big fucking mouth.

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Kongo just got thrown into the lions den. A really really fucking good pack of lions in Nog. He's going to eat his words and I'm going to enjoy every second of it. The body count shall rise.
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The Cro Cop who showed up for Kongo would be murdered by Aleks.
See the thing is this. Aleks is not a Muay Thai kickboxer. He's a good striker but not on the level of K1 strikers by any means. He's just has speed and tons of power.

Kongo, is a pro Muay Thai kickboxer with a better record than CroCop. Maybe due to lack of competition, but we dont know who he's fought and K1 figthers are not the best in the world, it's only 1 org.

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If Kongo and Cro Cop traded and Kongo was getting the better of some technical exchanges, I'd be impressed. Pounding Cro Cop in the clinch when he's just standing there doesn't make Kongo a world class striker in my view.
Kongo also broke CroCop's ribs. You seem to elude this fact. Kick in the balls or not, CroCop still would have lost.

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I see Kongo's fight with Assuerio, not Cro Cop, as his most impressive display of striking. And he's still been beaten by Gilbert Yvel whose striking is certainly not top notch by K-1 standards.
Nonsense, Yvel wa also a pro Muay thai fighter before his transition. He would do great in K1. Most of his loses came by sub as well.

What you don't get is any fighter who goes from Kickboxing to MMA would rather make it a stand up fight, so the stand up aspect of the fight will more than likely make the difference. Just because Kongo doesn't have as big a name as CroCop doesn't mean he's any less of a striker. And Kongo's losses are far and few between. We all know Kongo hasn't shown any ground game yet, but he's also not a ground fighter. No shame in losing to a ground fighter (Carmelo Marrero) if it's not your game, it also happend to CroCop against Nog (that may be saying something.)

Anyway, Kongo is a great striker and the only way Nog can win is on the ground, but he has to keep Kongo there, and Nog is not known for his wrestling.
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