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[mmafanatic087]

Dan Henderson wants to stay at 205 while the UFC wants him to drop to 185 for another unification match. Henderson only has one fight left on his current contract.

Cro Cop hasn't been taking the company's phone calls of late and his future is very much in doubt. With such a high downside guarantee to go with his lackluster performance, he has become very expendable.
No real surprise about Cro Cop, but I hate to see the UFC put the squeeze on Henderson. Their habit of stalling out fighters who are on the last fight of the contract really irks me. Anybody heard from Nate Marquardt lately? He's got one fight left with the UFC. And then there's Tito Ortiz and Andrei Arlovski...

As Adam Swift puts it:


Ortiz joins Andre Arlovski, who also has one fight left on his current deal, in the UFC's version of purgatory where star fighters without multi-fight deals go to cool off.

link http://bloodyelbow.com/

[terriblet]

I was wondering about that.Putting good fighters on ice is a not only hurting the fighters,but it also is a bad deal 4 all the fans of the fighters.Many fans don't know about this tactic & they in turn blame the fighters themselves 4 their inactivity.That's f***ed up!

[colin]

We will see all these fighters back. But due to lackluster fights they dont have good credibility in the ufc. So they have to put it all on the line in their next fights or else they will be fighting in a different organization

[maxp84z]

the ufc needs to do is put other fighters wiith one fight left on their contracts against other fighters with one fight left. Let's see ortiz/Henderson or Nate/Henderson

[Krazikarl]

The UFC desperately needs Hendo at MW, so I think that their negotiations with him are more about that than the number of fights left. He should get good money on his next contract as long as hes willing to fight at MW. Ortiz is fighting Bisping, so that doesnt fit in the whole theory.

So while the UFC definitely does ice some fighters with 1 fight left, they dont do it all the time by any means. In fact, I only see them doing it consistently if title shots are involved, and that does make sense (not giving a guy a title shot if its going to be his last fight: thats a potential mess and everybody knows it).

[leelandk]

Originally Posted by Krazikarl

The UFC desperately needs Hendo at MW, so I think that their negotiations with him are more about that than the number of fights left. He should get good money on his next contract as long as hes willing to fight at MW. Ortiz is fighting Bisping, so that doesnt fit in the whole theory.

So while the UFC definitely does ice some fighters with 1 fight left, they dont do it all the time by any means. In fact, I only see them doing it consistently if title shots are involved, and that does make sense (not giving a guy a title shot if its going to be his last fight: thats a potential mess and everybody knows it).

Adding Henderson to MW does almost nothing. It makes 2 more interesting fights possible (Hendo vs. Silva/Franklin), but its still gonna be a weak division. The UFC needs to sign some new MW talent and quit banking on TUF to fill out the MW division.

Henderson wants to fight the best, and right now the LHW division is where the best fights are available for him. Plus, its been proven that 205 is his best weightclass imo.

As far as Ortiz vs. Bisping, I thought it was Rashad vs. Bisping.

[Afro]

Originally Posted by leelandk

Adding Henderson to MW does almost nothing. It makes 2 more interesting fights possible (Hendo vs. Silva/Franklin), but its still gonna be a weak division. The UFC needs to sign some new MW talent and quit banking on TUF to fill out the MW division.

Henderson wants to fight the best, and right now the LHW division is where the best fights are available for him. Plus, its been proven that 205 is his best weightclass imo.

As far as Ortiz vs. Bisping, I thought it was Rashad vs. Bisping.

Thank you, in fact adding Hendo in a way makes the MW division worse because he is a bad matchup for Silva, and Franklin I honestly dont think either would make things too exciting vs Hendo, there great fighters.. just not great match-ups for Hendo.

[jrube]

Originally Posted by Krazikarl

The UFC desperately needs Hendo at MW, so I think that their negotiations with him are more about that than the number of fights left. He should get good money on his next contract as long as hes willing to fight at MW. Ortiz is fighting Bisping, so that doesnt fit in the whole theory.

So while the UFC definitely does ice some fighters with 1 fight left, they dont do it all the time by any means. In fact, I only see them doing it consistently if title shots are involved, and that does make sense (not giving a guy a title shot if its going to be his last fight: thats a potential mess and everybody knows it).

Have to give you REPS in the last quote... The uFC would be STUPID to give anyone with one fight left a title shot, or put them in a fight with potential title ramifications.

As far as freezing the fighters, I would like to see AA get another title shot, but I think he needs another fight or two first... Perhaps we could see an AA/Vera fight after the Sylvia fight. As far as Tito goes, I want to see him get demolished in his next fight, and have to leave the UFC or take a much smaller deal $$$... Perhaps that will finally put a fire under his butt and make him fight like a champ again... It sucks when you got someone who talks so much crap, but hasn't done anything to back it up in like... ummm... 3 years!

[Krazikarl]

I'm not saying that adding Hendo at MW makes the division good. I'm saying that it makes it better and gives the UFC time. Lets say that A Silva beats Franklin. Now the UFC has a huge problem. Who do they have next in line for a title shot? Yushin Okami? Ew. Even if Franklin wins, they still probably have to have somebody fight him for the next title shot since they usually dont let the guy rematch right away.

By adding Hendo they have the next title shot in the bank, and they can probably string along the next title shot after that with the 3 names in the division. That gives them 6 months or so to patch together the division by adding a few more names. Without Hendo they have a mess on their hands right away.

I dont see how adding arguably the best guy at 185 makes the division worse.

As to Tito: yeah youre right. No idea why that got mixed up in my head.

[jrube]

Originally Posted by Krazikarl

I'm not saying that adding Hendo at MW makes the division good. I'm saying that it makes it better and gives the UFC time. Lets say that A Silva beats Franklin. Now the UFC has a huge problem. Who do they have next in line for a title shot? Yushin Okami? Ew. Even if Franklin wins, they still probably have to have somebody fight him for the next title shot since they usually dont let the guy rematch right away.

By adding Hendo they have the next title shot in the bank, and they can probably string along the next title shot after that with the 3 names in the division. That gives them 6 months or so to patch together the division by adding a few more names. Without Hendo they have a mess on their hands right away.

I dont see how adding arguably the best guy at 185 makes the division worse.

As to Tito: yeah youre right. No idea why that got mixed up in my head.

I agree Hendo would make the MW division much stronger, because after Franklin... who else can really Challange Silva??? I would LOVE to see a HENDO/SPIDER unifications fight... That will be good stuff erght there.