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[Squeako]

Originally Posted by leelandk

I have read every one of your posts. You are aware that same day weigh-ins were the norm back when in boxing? The AC's found it was too dangerous because fighters were cutting too much water weight and then fighting while dangerously dehydrated. Not too mention, who wants to watch 2 depleted fighters gas after 5 minutes.

Weigh-ins the day before is the alternative to same day weigh-ins, not the other way around.

That makes sense. Yet, if a fighter is having to drop that much water to make weight, it would seem he's in a less-than-ideal weight class anyway. It works better for him in that he fights smaller guys, but how does it work for the sport? To me, it makes the top guys who cut from a class higher look not as great as the others who either won't or can't. Oh well, I won't lose sleep over it.

[mjeffers365]

This has been a fantastic read. I have seen a lot of good points favoring change and favoring things stay the same. I feel adjustments are always good and the best way to gage them is to make some slight adjustments. I feel the 15 lb gaps are working well where as the 10 lb gaps wouldnt when it comes to larger fighters. Changes I wouldnt object to seeing in the upcoming year would go as follows UFC adding a featherweight division at 145lbs that way stars like Kid Yamamoto and Urijah Faber and Cub Swanson and even UFC vets like Jens Pulver,Joe Lauzon and possibly Kenny Florian can flourish there. Moving LW to 160lbs allowing fighters like Karo and Diego to find new homes and add to the already exciting LW mix moving WW to 175 would help eliminate tweeners who way about 190 plus but under 200 walk around weight and MW would move to 190 keeping with the formula. LHW would remain the same at 205 but adding a cruiserweight division with a weight limit of 220lbs favoring smaller heavyweights and making heavyweight unlimited no weight cut involved. That being said if no changes are made the system works really well as is but change can always add to improvement.

[kingrobert]

I think i would be a good idea to have a wieght class below the lw class. That would make for some more interesting fights. Heavyweight you could possibly split up. Have 205-250 and maybe 251-300. Just and idea

[Afro]

Originally Posted by leelandk

Fighters are going to cut weight if there are weightclasses. Nobody cares if you have some moral dilemma about the matter. It is what it is.

Wouldnt the difference be that now they have no choice to cut weight if they want to actually fight in MMA as opposed to if the structure was like boxing.. they would have more of a choice in having to cut weight or not.. especially for the fighters BJ Penn who sits at what? 160 lbs? he could fight at 160 and move up to 170 if he chooses to, or move down to 155 if he chooses to.. but he doesnt have to.

Maybe im thinkin too much of Sakurai when I think about adding weight classes.. just look at that guy, he struggled to fight his right weight.. wasnt a good 185er at all, was solid at 170 at best.. at 160.. he flourished. He cant make 155, and now hes pretty much left with no choice but to fight at 170, even though we all know hes a much better fighter with 10 less lbs on his body.. as silly as that sounds, the proof is in his fights that 10 lbs has made a difference. I just think a lot more fighters would benefit like Sakurai, we'd prolly see a better BJ Penn, GSP, Rich Franklin, etc etc if there were more weight classes.. ones that they can say damn, this is the perfect weight for me and now I get a chance to fight at it.

I know people think that it "waters down" the divisions, I dont see it that way.. I always view the super middleweight and light middleweight divisions as Middleweight.. cuz theres no real difference, they all fight eachother if they choose to. The way I see it, we'd see a lot more fighters in MMA if there were more weight divisions.. cuz lets face it, theres prolly 105 lb terrors out there waiting for a strawweight division so they can make there name. They might just be some of the best fighters in the world, but we wont know cuz theres no division for them to fight in.

[ronin]

Originally Posted by jrube

You missed my point... we are talking 10 lbs here and there... and to your point.. .I guess we should split up the HW division then right, instead of Heavy Weight being between 206 and 265, per your theory we should have 215, 225, 235, 245, 255, and 265 lb division in Heavy Weight right? So we dont have the bigger 255, 265 lb HW fighters pickin gon the poor little 215, 225 lb Heavy Weight fighters....


Or does your theory only apply to those fighters not in the Heavy Weight Division...... Just shut up cause your theory is flawed.

Agree...

There are too many divisions in boxing and I would hate to see the same thing happen to MMA.
10 pounds is nothing you should be able to fight guys thats are a little heavier than you.
The reason why fighters in MMA win is not because they are heavier its because they have better skills, like BJJ with Royce Gracie.

If its just about who is heavier and thats gonna determine the winner of the fight most of the time, that theory is flawed, and that is one of the reasons Boxing made some many divisions.That would means butterbean should have beat Minowa..but Minowa won

Weighing more than your opponent doesn't guarantee your gonna win.

[leedogg900]

i actually completely agree with rogan on this one, and im glad hes saying something about this and the scoring system.

if i had it my way it would be like this

145 - Featherweight
155 - Lightweight
165 - Super Lightweight
175 - Welterweight
185 - Middleweight
195 - Super Middleweight
205 - Light Heavyweight


that would be the ideal situation for now in my opinion.

more weight classes are needed. some guys have unfair advantages of being huge for their weight class compared guys who are smaller but cant make a lighter weight.

plus this would give the ufc more champions and high profile fights. not to mention every fighter would now be able to chose a better weight class if they need to.

[Texasboyballin]

I wouldn't mind seein 2 more weight classes, there would be alot more dream match-ups dat would be more possible w/out draining your body w/so much weight cutting.