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[Mean]

Based on what I saw of the "New" GSP against Koshcheck, I think this time next year we may be discussing GSP in the same way that we are discussing Silva now: Who can beat him? If not for the stumble against Serra, we probably would be saying that now. The WW division is certainly deeper than the MW division so there will be a better string of opponents for him. While it might be fun to see him at 185 and fighting Silva, I think he is just a little too small to pull it off. But I would still love to see it.

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[Ramma]

Originally Posted by Mean

Based on what I saw of the "New" GSP against Koshcheck, I think this time next year we may be discussing GSP in the same way that we are discussing Silva now: Who can beat him? If not for the stumble against Serra, we probably would be saying that now. The WW division is certainly deeper than the MW division so there will be a better string of opponents for him. While it might be fun to see him at 185 and fighting Silva, I think he is just a little too small to pull it off. But I would still love to see it.

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IMO, GSP is on top of the division, losing to Serra or not. He beats people at their own game, good wrestling, good stand up, good submission game, and the guy isn't even in his prime yet. Anderson is 32, he is getting ready to leave his prime years.

I think Hughes is the only one who might be above him.. but this time next year he will be retired. 2 or 3 more fights according to him.. 1 vs Serra, 2 vs (either Anderson or a title defense), and 3 vs (either Anderson or another title defense). Hughes will probably be done by this time next year.

[rodneykm]

Hughes above GSP or Silva? Certainly not GSP....

[Piz]

You are on point with how your thinking brother! I've been thinking the same damb way, ever since that Ko's fight. GSP is not your average shit talking fighter, when he says he learned from an experience, he really means it, did, showed it, and prooved it! I did not expect GSP to beat Ko's at his own game, that was a shock in it-self, but just his posture and the way he did it, how he fought was just sick! The mans a thinker and a champion, I would go as far as to say he is or atleast will be one day light-years beyond his comp, if he is not already in the WW division.

[Ramma]

Originally Posted by rodneykm

Hughes above GSP or Silva? Certainly not GSP....

I was simply stating the rest of Hughes' career if he doesn't lose.


He fights Serra, then GSP, then Silva... I imagine that is what he has planned.

[sandywh]

Sorry to break up the love fest for GSP, but it just isn't so.

GSP looked OK against a very 1 deminsional fighter (yeah, he's still 1 dimensional). He's trainning with Greg Jackson's camp now. I doubt thathe can get anything there that is going to greatly improve an facet of his game.

Also, the one thing that no trainer, or camp, or trainning can give you is heart and a chin. So far, from what I've seen of GSP, I haven't been impressed by either. He's been rocked by very weak shots in the past by Hughes, Penn, and Serra (none will ever be confused with devastating strikers). Also, GSP's biggest advantage at WW is that, at the moment, he is the only "well-rounded" guy at the top of that division. I just don't view Gearges St.Pierre as dominating a division for years, a la, Fedor, Hughes, Silva.

[rodneykm]

I dunno bro he sure made Matt Hughes look like an assclown the last time they fought. 2 knock outs in one fight is pretty solid against the former unbeatable Hughes.

[Piz]

Originally Posted by sandywh

Sorry to break up the love fest for GSP, but it just isn't so.

GSP looked OK against a very 1 deminsional fighter (yeah, he's still 1 dimensional). He's trainning with Greg Jackson's camp now. I doubt thathe can get anything there that is going to greatly improve an facet of his game.

Also, the one thing that no trainer, or camp, or trainning can give you is heart and a chin. So far, from what I've seen of GSP, I haven't been impressed by either. He's been rocked by very weak shots in the past by Hughes, Penn, and Serra (none will ever be confused with devastating strikers). Also, GSP's biggest advantage at WW is that, at the moment, he is the only "well-rounded" guy at the top of that division. I just don't view Gearges St.Pierre as dominating a division for years, a la, Fedor, Hughes, Silva.

Just wondering if you have been watching GSP from the beggining? If you watched the first fight against Hughes, you will see that in the second fight he learned from his mistakes, could not be taken down, and totally dominated Hughes! As I said in my previous post, he is a man of mental skill, he's a learner and someone who I see as a fighter who will always continue to evolve. Put it this way, if GSP ever looses to someone again, I do not see him loosing to them a second time. The man is a learner, and he is someone with that special ability who will be able to always counter the other mans style, just because of the fact that he has the brain and ability to do just that.

[mrpink4147]

one year from now gsp will be making his first title defense because he got injured leading into a fight that was suppose to happen in the summer probably a december fight which he will ultimately lose to jon fitch

[Masscore]

Unlike most of you, I think the showing GSP had against Koscheck wasn't that great. Ok so he outwrestled Koscheck, that was amazing, but other then that he did nothing that impressed me. He had a guy with little BJJ expierence on his back and couldnt pass his guard and couldnt sub him. It was basically the definition of a LnP win. He did no damage to Kos, attempted no passes and went for only 2 subs the entire fight. He can't fight like that and expect to beat Hughes, Fitch, or even Serra for that matter. He is not the same ole GSP, the ole GSP would have destoryed Kos in about 1 round, this GSP is scared to take chances. But who knows, he could come back out KO Hughes in the rematch for the title.

But from a year from now, he will be rehabbing an injury he got in training and waiting for Hughes to retire so he can get another shot at the title.