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[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by kickass32

Bonnar sure as hell wasn't running away................Bonnar came to fight and did a pretty good job. At no point was he "Running"

He kept backing off, Forrest was having to charge in, he was circling the ring but not like a fighter, more like literally skipping around in a circle, avoiding the fight at many times.

Sure he engauged and landed some nice strikes, I'm not saying he didn't, they were both bloody and Bonnar was very swolen and ended up with a broken nose and possibly a fractured cheek bone.

I was NOT the only one who thought Bonnar was avoiding the action, the crowd was booing when Bonnar was avoiding the action, Forrest threw his hands up saying "let's go" and after the fight Forrest said "I don't know why he didn't throw a knee, I just kept coming at him and he kept backing away or running away".

[Kewl144]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

Ignorant are we? You are trying to debate an issue yet you are wanting your opposition to quote rules, why would you not just quote the rules and bold or underline your points?

Are you that useless? C'mon bro, do your own work and make your points, don't ask your opposition to do it for you.

still cant find it? I told you before. Your kind has to be lead by the hand to the answer. Is it really that complicated for you to find and post the rule?

[Boo]

The foul is: Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury. http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=LearnUFC.Rules

I looked it up. Can we play nice now?

[AlCarey]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

Wow this kid's such a fucking tool. Did you not see homeboy get crushed with a knee, stunned and dazed holding on for dear life and Mcarthy step in and take 60 seconds to deduct 1 point?

He was probably running becasue he was rocked eh fucktard? Would you not do the same to try and regain compasure or would you swing wildly like an idiot? No need to answer that, I already know...

Someone with Mcarthy's experience should know better than to pause the fight while someone is rocked as bad as the guy was just to deduct a point. Seems like UFC is trying to adopt Pride rules and replace the yellow card with a point deduction because I sure as hell don't remember Hominick being deducted any points for sprinting away from Grugel.

It's sad idiots like you are so ignorant you can't even begin to fathom foul play and the possibility of it. I'm a realist and have my own opinion, you just seem to follow everyone elses.

If you will give me your address...i will glady pay for a round trip ticket for YOU!! to say that to my face...so unless it's your addy pussy don't reply

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by AlCarey

If you will give me your address...i will glady pay for a round trip ticket for YOU!! to say that to my face...so unless it's your addy pussy don't reply

Easy there key-board warrior..

You sound pathetic saying that you will pay for a round trip ticket for me to come to your residence and throw down.

Just save your money for the new Barbie Hott Wheels.

[kickass32]

:grinsmile26: vs.

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by Boo

The foul is: Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury. http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=LearnUFC.Rules

I looked it up. Can we play nice now?

I wanted that lazy fool to do his own work instead of trying to bark orders.

However since you posted it (thank you) I will eleborate...


The foul is: Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury.

Bonnar certainly qualified for a point deduction or at least a warning and then should it have continued point deduction issued.

He avoided contact with Forrest, watch the fight again. He was not circling the octagon to find angles, he was trying to avoid engaugement, not counter punch as you stated. He seemd pretty timid to me after being picked apart that first round.

Forrest maintaned control of the center of the octagon, pressed the action, Bonnar backed off over and over therefore a point deduction should've been awarded.

If Bonnar did that shit in Pride he would've been yellow carded with the quickness.

[Kewl144]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

I wanted that lazy fool to do his own work instead of trying to bark orders.

However since you posted it (thank you) I will eleborate...


The foul is: Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury.

Bonnar certainly qualified for a point deduction or at least a warning and then should it have continued point deduction issued.

He avoided contact with Forrest, watch the fight again. He was not circling the octagon to find angles, he was trying to avoid engaugement, not counter punch as you stated. He seemd pretty timid to me after being picked apart that first round.

Forrest maintaned control of the center of the octagon, pressed the action, Bonnar backed off over and over therefore a point deduction should've been awarded.

If Bonnar did that shit in Pride he would've been yellow carded with the quickness.

The point, which you still cant seem to grasp is that the rule is fairly subjecteive (look it up). Stephan didnt show that he didnt want to fight. He didnt avoid throwing punches. By your delluded definition of the rule, any counter puncher, including Liddell since he was backing up during his fight, should lose points. Compare that to Hermes literally jogging after Varner around the octagon during their fight when the fight was stopped to take a point away. That shit had to be stopped or they'd would have just done laps the whole fight. Also, Varner, unlike Stephan, wasnt against the cage. He turned and ran across the octagon, not simply circling the outside because his opponent had cut the cage off. All better now?

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by Kewl144

The point, which you still cant seem to grasp is that the rule is fairly subjecteive (look it up). Stephan didnt show that he didnt want to fight. He didnt avoid throwing punches. By your delluded definition of the rule, any counter puncher, including Liddell since he was backing up during his fight, should lose points. Compare that to Hermes literally jogging after Varner around the octagon during their fight when the fight was stopped to take a point away. That shit had to be stopped or they'd would have just done laps the whole fight. Also, Varner, unlike Stephan, wasnt against the cage. He turned and ran across the octagon, not simply circling the outside because his opponent had cut the cage off. All better now?

No not really, you're still wrong....

Homicick was not deducted in the Gurgel fight.... Elaborate on the "sprinting" which took place in that fight.

Comparing Chuck backing away to what Bonnar was doing is evidence of your stupidity.

Bonnar was bitching up, soory you're such a huge Boner fan but the guy sucks and will be dropped from UFC after his contract is up. Is there really any doubt?

Also you keep avoiding the questions...

I will say them YET AGAIN since you're such a douche- If what you claim was validation for a point deduction in the Varner Francs fight then why was there no point deduction in the Gurgel Haminick fight?

Second question (2 SHOULD not be too difficult for you to answer)- Would Bonnar not have been yellow carded in Pride?

[Kewl144]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

No not really, you're still wrong....

Homicick was not deducted in the Gurgel fight.... Elaborate on the "sprinting" which took place in that fight.

Comparing Chuck backing away to what Bonnar was doing is evidence of your stupidity.

Bonnar was bitching up, soory you're such a huge Boner fan but the guy sucks and will be dropped from UFC after his contract is up. Is there really any doubt?

Also you keep avoiding the questions...

I will say them YET AGAIN since you're such a douche- If what you claim was validation for a point deduction in the Varner Francs fight then why was there no point deduction in the Gurgel Haminick fight?

Second question (2 SHOULD not be too difficult for you to answer)- Would Bonnar not have been yellow carded in Pride?

I'm not a Bonar fan...i'm not a fan of either fighter in that fight. But I know the rules and I know reality, two things you dont seem to know anything about. It's not pride, it's the UFC and UFC rules. Bonar, according to UFC rules, didnt do anything to merit losing a point. Neither did Homicick. I already explained this to you, but you still cant grasp it can you? Varner turned his back and ran across the octagon with another fighter jogging after him and he spit out his mouth piece...all because he was hurt and wanted time. Stephan never ran across the octagon to escape and he never showned that he didnt want to trade. Again, go look up subjective, take your medication, and go to bed.