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[CHUCKtheCHAMP]

Originally Posted by ortiz#1

Tito ortiz has been training with matt hamil with his wrestling game , tito will take chuck down it might be a boring fight but tito will out wrestle chuck and ground and pound for the title , tito has been working on his takedown with matt who is a greco roman god at wrestling( the guy did not use hands in tuf when he was training with bisping , matt is know where near a good mma fighter yet but his greco roman W is top notch . And he is pushing titos wrestling to a new level, tito will not stand with chuck he will go for the clinch and takehim down , tito knows if he stands with chuck the same thing will happen as the first fight. tito and chuck are the same size height and weight Randy said that tito was much stronger than chuck at udc 47 , chuck is by far the best striker at 205 in the ufc as is wanderlei is in pride arona beat silva by taking him down , tito and arona are both takedown and ground and pound fighters , i see tito in a tough fight with chuck but titos conditioning is better and tito will prove his wrestling is better than chucks , everyone said that trained with tito and chuck back in the day that chuck got the better striking of tito but that titos wrestling was better than chucks well titos training full time ( when he is in camp) with one of the best young wrestlers out ther in mma and matt hamil is teaching tito some great takedowns and some all around better greco moves!! people can flame me but thats how chuck will lose and tito will be the one to do it just like arona beat silva ON THE GROUND

lamest thing ive ever heard... yeah arona took silva down... wand has no where near the takedown defense chuck has... thats all i will say

[Afro]

and Arona's wrestling is better then Tito's

[UFCfanatic]

Originally Posted by ortiz#1

Tito ortiz has been training with matt hamil with his wrestling game , tito will take chuck down it might be a boring fight but tito will out wrestle chuck and ground and pound for the title , tito has been working on his takedown with matt who is a greco roman god at wrestling( the guy did not use hands in tuf when he was training with bisping , matt is know where near a good mma fighter yet but his greco roman W is top notch . And he is pushing titos wrestling to a new level, tito will not stand with chuck he will go for the clinch and takehim down , tito knows if he stands with chuck the same thing will happen as the first fight. tito and chuck are the same size height and weight Randy said that tito was much stronger than chuck at udc 47 , chuck is by far the best striker at 205 in the ufc as is wanderlei is in pride arona beat silva by taking him down , tito and arona are both takedown and ground and pound fighters , i see tito in a tough fight with chuck but titos conditioning is better and tito will prove his wrestling is better than chucks , everyone said that trained with tito and chuck back in the day that chuck got the better striking of tito but that titos wrestling was better than chucks well titos training full time ( when he is in camp) with one of the best young wrestlers out ther in mma and matt hamil is teaching tito some great takedowns and some all around better greco moves!! people can flame me but thats how chuck will lose and tito will be the one to do it just like arona beat silva ON THE GROUND

This has to be the longest sentence ever written!!! LOL

[Punk Ass]

As much as I hate Chuck Liddell I have to say Ortiz#1 groupie has been personally paid by tito to give this long ramble about nothing. Tito is finished man, give it up. He was exposed by Frank Shamrock years ago and he's still getting exposed. On top of that I dont think he has any heart, because he quit in that Shamrock match. Anyway, Chuck would knock him out again.

[KnowledgeKnown]

Wow everyone's so extreme on this board. Tito is " finished". Abit dramatic. Ortiz is relatively young, can beat alot of guys so will continue to fight and be one of the highest paid MMA fighters in the UFC. So I don't think that constitutes being "finished". If it does i'd love to be "finished". Saying that, i'm not sure Tito can beat Chuck right now. But i'd love to see the rematch. I like both guys so I don't care who wins, just want to see it.

[kickass32]

Originally Posted by harlemhustla145

As much as I hate Chuck Liddell I have to say Ortiz#1 groupie has been personally paid by tito to give this long ramble about nothing. Tito is finished man, give it up. He was exposed by Frank Shamrock years ago and he's still getting exposed. On top of that I dont think he has any heart, because he quit in that Shamrock match. Anyway, Chuck would knock him out again.

OH my Gawd, that was 7 years ago, before Tito had any cardio.....lol....That is funny. Tito is a cardio god, say what you will about him, but no one is every gonna beat Tito because of cardio again.

[matto]

lol tito beating chuck.