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[mattsoper]

Originally Posted by dalandlou

Geez, I can almost promise you that Sobral won't be seeing Chuck again. I think Sobral is a great fighter, but neither fight has Renato even put pressure on Chuck let alone leave the first round. Sobral won't quit fighting, but it will be some time and a new champ before he gets another shot.

Chuck will just pick apart the UFC LHW until he gets caught (which is hopefully soon). I would like to see Ortiz beat him, if only for the fact that the belt changes hands and builds an even better rivalry between them. It won't likely happen, but how swell would it be...

i would not like ortiz holding the belt or beating chuck..because then he would run his mouth even more than he already does..soemtimes it's funny, but if he beat chuck then it would just get annoying and piss em off to the extreme

I just don't think the fans will get into chuck Babalu-3....maybe if babalu put up a bit of a fight in this one or even got robbed somehow...it's like ortiz shamrock...tito has owned ken and the only reason ken is getting another fight is because some people feel he and they were robbed in the last fight....babalu does not have that honour lol....he has been manhandled on to seperate occasions....he just better hope chuck loses that belt

Heres a thought, can he drop down to 185???

[MMAPIMP]

hopefully he will go back to brazil an work on those scary faces . but seriusly he probably fight bonnar since there coming off a lose.he cant fght rashad since he has lost and rashad probably fight forest so bonnar and sobral seem like a good reason why for them to fight

[matto]

poor sobral, he really doesnt have a choice, he will leave the ufc and go to pride or wfa. he lost to chuck twice very decicivley and is chucks biggest threat in the ufc now as hard as taht is to seem, but randy is retired and tito, hell no he aint beating chuck. sobral will leave. only question is when will i ever see chuck in a competivie match again. he will ko tito again and tito wont leave the ufc and will just stay for the pay, but wont get another shot at the belt, or atleast if chuck is champ. dana better be serousally thinking about trying to buy out some top pride contenders like shogun, or wand. and get a lot of hw's and maybe try and get some good 185 guys. i would love to see henderson in the ufc, he would waste franklin and silva. lets see a summary for the ufc. franklin has a tough fight with silva comming up and if swick beats louassau then he will have another top contender. matt's only threat is gsp and bj might be able to beat him again although i doubt it matt wont overlook him. bj will be lw champ or sherk or pulver, chuck isnt going anywere and the ufc needs to find him some conpetition, i absoluteally hate tim sylvia and hope monson,mir,or vera wastes him. and they ufc needs a lot more top hw's.

[matto]

sobral would waste any of those guys like forest, bonner, or rashad or any other top lhw. he might have problems with tito, but neiter tito or sobral will be able to beat chuck. they r just not on his level, but r the best lhw besides chuck. chuck simpley has no competition in the ufc. ufc serousally needs some top pride 205's


Chuck
Sobral and Tito
forrest and other lhw's

[baba]

Babalu might goto Pride. He did emabarass Shogun already who's arguably the best Pride has at that weight. He'd do very well there,but he'll never beat Chuck. He may as well stay in Japan until Liddell retires.

[TN94z]

why not? Couture got another shot, AA got a lot of shots and Sylvia the same.. Babalu deserves one more shot cuz who else? I mean Tito fights Chuck next.. after that is it gonna be Tito-Chuck 3 before its Babalu-Chuck 3 cuz Chuck has to fight someone

I don't think there will be a Liddell/Sobral 3 any time soon. Randy got another shot because it was 1-1. Sobral is 0-2. No reason to fight again. Tito won't beat Liddell because I don't think he will be able to take him down and that is where Tito dominates. I don't know....it looks like Liddell will be around for a while. But I think Sobral goes to Pride or something.

[Weirdharold]

I think Babalu is a monster, but Chuck has his number. I was rooting for Chuck but I was real nervous before this fight. I really thought Babalu was going to give Chuck a run for his money. Damn was I wrong. I have never been so happy to be so wrong.

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by baba

Babalu might goto Pride. He did emabarass Shogun already who's arguably the best Pride has at that weight. He'd do very well there,but he'll never beat Chuck. He may as well stay in Japan until Liddell retires.

I don't think he would do particularly well in Pride. When he beat Shogun that was in 03 before he had gone to Pride and Chute Box, not to mention the fact that he was 21 years old in that fight and was not in anywhere near the shape he is in now.

I don't think there is any question as to what the outcome of a remacth would be.

In Pride Babalu would have to contend with Silva, Shogun, Arona, Little Nog, Igor, Overeem, Nakamura and Randleman.

I see him MAYBE defeating 2 of those fighters and that's it but he could very easily lose all 8 of those fights.

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by baba

He did emabarass Shogun already who's arguably the best Pride has at that weight. .

Hardly... Did you watch the fight? He was being dominated in the standup and was winning the fight before he got subbed.

[Masscore]

I think Sobral finishes the year in the UFC, picks off Bonnar, Evans, or maybe Forrest. And just waits to see if Ortiz beats Liddell, because if that happens he stands a good chance of getting a title shot with Ortiz. But if Liddell stays champ he has to go to Pride or WFA because he wont get another shot at Liddell as long as Liddell is champion.

As for Liddell's title dominace he has one more challenger, a lot of people are writing him off since the first fight and thats Ortiz. I'm not writing Tito off because I think Tito has one huge advantage over Chuck and thats Cardio. If he could someone manage to surive the first 2 rounds (a lot easier said then done) he has a great chance of taking out Liddell. Everyone also forget Tito has only been knocked out once, and he has gotten into the ring with some lethal strikers (Wandy, Victor, Mezger). But if Liddell beats Tito, then the UFC will have to throw Forrest to the wolves then look for over compention. Maybe go after Jackson or Wandy.