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[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by MMAPIMP

fedor overated just my opion though i would say it be a tie for me i cant choose nae the great marquadt or bj penn {when hes not chubby}

You are the only person that calls Fedor overrated so I am inclined to believe that you have not seen many of his fights and possibly only youtube clips. Don't rob yourself of the privelage of watching fedor's fights, we may never see another fighter as good as he is.

[fe4tw]

There is seriously something wrong when someone says Fedor is overrated yet thinks Marquardt is good enough to be tied for the title of best P4P in the world... Seriously, just out of those two guys, how can you say the guy who has dominated every single fight since arriving in Pride is not as good as a guy who did just enough to decision Joe Doerkson? Hmmm...

[MMAPIMP]

why do worship him so much he only defeated 1 top fighter in my opion and thats nogueria . i dont realy count crocop as that good of a mma fighter he doesnt really impress me on the ground but does have good stand up but he isnt well rounded so i cant say he is a top fighter. go ahead and write a list of all the guys that fedor defeated then think about if hes that good ok. im have to borowed this word cus i shut you up GIT

[Kimuras"R"Us]

Originally Posted by MMAPIMP

why do worship him so much he only defeated 1 top fighter in my opion and thats nogueria . i dont realy count crocop as that good of a mma fighter he doesnt really impress me on the ground but does have good stand up but he isnt well rounded so i cant say he is a top fighter. go ahead and write a list of all the guys that fedor defeated then think about if hes that good ok. im have to borowed this word cus i shut you up GIT

MMAPIMP I have no problems with you ever, but this post is idiotic. I don't even have to look at Sherdog to think of Fedor's hitlist. Mark Coleman, former UFC heavyweight champ...tap out. Kevin Randleman, a very skilled fighter and beast of a man.... tap out. Ricardo Arona, Big Daddy Goodridge, Fujita... That's about as impressive as a list of W's as you'll find my man. I don't want to knock Marquardt, but his name shouldn't even be anywhere near this convo.

[fe4tw]

Well, for starters, being good and being well-rounded are two totally different things. Cro Cop is a great fighter, though he isn't as well-rounded as some of the other top fighters in the world.

Fedor has beaten: Big Nog, Cro Cop, Randleman, Coleman, Fujita, Herring, Schilt, Sobral, and Arona. While we're on this subject, who has Marquardt beaten to make him the best, I wonder...

And lastly, you haven't shut anyone up until they don't reply. How moronic was that statement? Seriously. And from reading your posts, I don't think you've ever shut anyone up with a good argument, but it's your ignorance that causes people to stop replying to you.

[MMAPIMP]

Originally Posted by fe4tw

Well, for starters, being good and being well-rounded are two totally different things. Cro Cop is a great fighter, though he isn't as well-rounded as some of the other top fighters in the world.

Fedor has beaten: Big Nog, Cro Cop, Randleman, Coleman, Fujita, Herring, Schilt, Sobral, and Arona. While we're on this subject, who has Marquardt beaten to make him the best, I wonder...

And lastly, you haven't shut anyone up until they don't reply. How moronic was that statement? Seriously. And from reading your posts, I don't think you've ever shut anyone up with a good argument, but it's your ignorance that causes people to stop replying to you.

randleman= was just a strong wrestler with no standup i give him credit for the ko over crocop fluke punch really but not a great fighter.
coleman= just a strong ass wreslter that needed to headbut people in the face to win and if went longer then 30 seconds he got tired and hes old.
fujita=wha? who
herring= decent standup decent wresling = decent fighter
schilt= just a kickboxer no mma skill at all andfedor struglled with him
arona= if he had stanup ability then i would say HEY GREAT WIN but come on all he knows is the ground .
sobral=watch his last fight
zulo= the best competion he ever foght
and didnt he lose to hendo not sure though you tell me .ok is that good enough reason why i think he is overated

[fe4tw]

No, but it shows your ignorance to a tee.

And by the way, I'm still waiting for Marquardt's great list of opponents.

[Ubermensch]

BJ Penn &
Frank Shamrock

[matto]

if wand beats cro cop and eaither barnett or nog in the owgp then he would stand the best chance aginst fedor and might be able to pull it off.

eaither gsp hughes or henderson, even though henderson wasnt impressive at all but he wasnt in trouble and if the fight went on he would have eventually landed that right hand. but that guy had is scouted very well, i got to give it up to him. but he is an olompic caliber wrestler and p4p the best wrestler in mma including matt hughes who is know for his wrestling, and his standup is up to par with the top strikers and his wrestling ability is unmatched. and he is very hard to submit, even nog took a while to submit him now to mention the huge size difference. but seeing that bj is almost as good as gsp and yeat he can fight at 155 and gsp can barley make 170 so bj might actually be better p4p then matt or gsp. if fedor got cut and cut some of that fat off and made lhw he would be the best p4p. but he is like 6 feet and that is tiny for hw. wanderlei, shogun and chuck would be good too.

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by MMAPIMP

why do worship him so much he only defeated 1 top fighter in my opion and thats nogueria . i dont realy count crocop as that good of a mma fighter he doesnt really impress me on the ground but does have good stand up but he isnt well rounded so i cant say he is a top fighter. go ahead and write a list of all the guys that fedor defeated then think about if hes that good ok. im have to borowed this word cus i shut you up GIT

This response is going to get you raped by lots of people who read it.

Watch his fights and then comeback and state that you concur and Fedor is hands down the best P4P fighter this sport have ever seen. To date, he is the best in the history of MMA.

Cro Cop not being well rounded... He has not needed to be, he has the best sprawl in MMA and has the best striking in MMA, that combo can only be defeated by world class fighters and as displayed in his 4 losses being from Fedor #1 in the world, Big Nog #2 in the world, Hunt #6-7 at HW and Randleman who hits harder than Chuck (as stated by Rampage as Rampage was asked which fighter he has faced hit the hardest and he said Randleman and this was after his fight with Chuck and Silva) and landed a huge left hook that was by far the biggest upset of the tournament and possibly the biggest upset in 04.

Buy some Pride DVD's and rent some upcoming Pride events. After watching the upcoming OWGP finals and then the Pride debut in the United States tell me that UFC has the better fighters and puts on the better venue without being a complete liar.