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[ortiz#1]

i think its funny how everyone thinks its all right if matt hughes moves up in weight if silva beats franklin , but that they said they would never fight , and thats all right , same with wandy and shogun but when it was tito and chuck everyone bashes tito for not fighting cchuck right away! they trained together, they lived together , tito ran in the ring gives his friend a hug when chuck beat kevin randleman , dana white had a fallen out with tito around ufc 40 and chuck sold himself out to the company , they were getting paid less than 100,000 back then , you dont hear shogun selling his self to pride to fight wandy he is #1 contender , chuck did what dana white wanted just like a good company boy would do. ( it work for him and dana ) but to talk shit about tito for that is just bullshit , matt and rich were told to fight tuf 2 and they said no there friends and it did not happen , those guys are real friends just like shogun and wandy and everyone hear thinks tito is so afraid thats what the ufc told us and wanted everyone to believe. chuck is the ass he sold out to the ufc good for him its worked out for him the guy is a hero he just a guy who will turn his back on a friend acutally a room mate and best training partner to get where he is today!!!! I know i would pick my friend over any fight my time would come to shine and his would of he just chose a shitty way to do it thats my opinon. ( there are alot of options for fighters in the same camp that are friend different weight class , pride , or just support the champ till he loses then its your turn ) chuck is the iceman for a reason !!!

[Afro]

I dont agree with anyone who uses friendship as an excuse not to fight someone

its like Mike Tyson said your elevating there lives by fighting them, your puttin food on there table, its a sign of disrespect not to fight a friend.

[BIG FLO]

i say fight your friend and afterwards go to the bar and share a beer or 15. or in franklin's case, share a xyience shake since he doesn't drink alcohol.

[Highlander]

Hey Tito, at first I didn't want to read what you wrote because it looked too long, but you said everything right. You hit the nail on the head for sure. I like Chuck's fights, but he is a jerk for selling himself to the company over a great friend. I would love to be in the UFC, but I wouldn't and couldn't fight my best friend. It's not right for so many reasons. I'd rather train and live with Tito any day over Chuck.

[Highlander]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

I dont agree with anyone who uses friendship as an excuse not to fight someone

its like Mike Tyson said your elevating there lives by fighting them, your puttin food on there table, its a sign of disrespect not to fight a friend.

Tyson is also a freak and bit a guy's ear off because he said he had children to feed. You can't take anything that guy says seriously. As far as putting food on their table, there are plenty of fighters to fight, not just two people who must do itor they'll go hungry and poor.

[TheBonger]

Originally Posted by ortiz#1

i think its funny how everyone thinks its all right if matt hughes moves up in weight if silva beats franklin , but that they said they would never fight , and thats all right , same with wandy and shogun but when it was tito and chuck everyone bashes tito for not fighting cchuck right away! they trained together, they lived together , tito ran in the ring gives his friend a hug when chuck beat kevin randleman , dana white had a fallen out with tito around ufc 40 and chuck sold himself out to the company , they were getting paid less than 100,000 back then , you dont hear shogun selling his self to pride to fight wandy he is #1 contender , chuck did what dana white wanted just like a good company boy would do. ( it work for him and dana ) but to talk shit about tito for that is just bullshit , matt and rich were told to fight tuf 2 and they said no there friends and it did not happen , those guys are real friends just like shogun and wandy and everyone hear thinks tito is so afraid thats what the ufc told us and wanted everyone to believe. chuck is the ass he sold out to the ufc good for him its worked out for him the guy is a hero he just a guy who will turn his back on a friend acutally a room mate and best training partner to get where he is today!!!! I know i would pick my friend over any fight my time would come to shine and his would of he just chose a shitty way to do it thats my opinon. ( there are alot of options for fighters in the same camp that are friend different weight class , pride , or just support the champ till he loses then its your turn ) chuck is the iceman for a reason !!!

Wow dude this is a hilarious comparsion. You are comparing Hughes and Rich to Tito and Chuck hum lets see, Hughes and Rich are both at the top of there respective weight classes and while fighting each other would help the UFC what would it really do for them? Tito and Chuck fought at the same weight class pretty much there whole careers, Chuck was supposed to get his title shot at UFC 40!! and did the friendly thing and stepped aside for the UFC to make the "HUGE" matchup of Tito-Ken so obviously he gets the next shot right? NO tito peaces out, then they 8 months later he gets a shot at the "interim" title against Randy we all know the story from there. The point is if two guys are "friends" and one is the Champ, the other Number #1 contender dont you give your "friend" his rightful shot? Hughes and Rich is a completely different situation being that neither one of them wants to fight, while Tito/Chuck was Tito not wanting to fight Chuck and Chuck wanting to fight in the worse way. After the fight happened its obvious why Tito didnt want to fight his good "buddy" chuck. While I would love to see a Hughes/Rich fight, you cant make two guys in different weight classes,both title holders, fight each other if neither wants too.

[Highlander]

The main reason Chuck is a jerk for fighting Tito is that he acted like they were never friends. He acted liked a moody woman. He sure as hell doesn't fight like one though.

[ortiz#1]

Originally Posted by TheBonger

Wow dude this is a hilarious comparsion. You are comparing Hughes and Rich to Tito and Chuck hum lets see, Hughes and Rich are both at the top of there respective weight classes and while fighting each other would help the UFC what would it really do for them? Tito and Chuck fought at the same weight class pretty much there whole careers, Chuck was supposed to get his title shot at UFC 40!! and did the friendly thing and stepped aside for the UFC to make the "HUGE" matchup of Tito-Ken so obviously he gets the next shot right? NO tito peaces out, then they 8 months later he gets a shot at the "interim" title against Randy we all know the story from there. The point is if two guys are "friends" and one is the Champ, the other Number #1 contender dont you give your "friend" his rightful shot? Hughes and Rich is a completely different situation being that neither one of them wants to fight, while Tito/Chuck was Tito not wanting to fight Chuck and Chuck wanting to fight in the worse way. After the fight happened its obvious why Tito didnt want to fight his good "buddy" chuck. While I would love to see a Hughes/Rich fight, you cant make two guys in different weight classes,both title holders, fight each other if neither wants too.

you could fight your friend with best of your ability nice guy , what is your great opinon on wandy and shogun ass , friends dont sell out they lived together ( to and chuck) you ass not a class thing iceman!!!

[ortiz#1]

Originally Posted by TheBonger

Wow dude this is a hilarious comparsion. You are comparing Hughes and Rich to Tito and Chuck hum lets see, Hughes and Rich are both at the top of there respective weight classes and while fighting each other would help the UFC what would it really do for them? Tito and Chuck fought at the same weight class pretty much there whole careers, Chuck was supposed to get his title shot at UFC 40!! and did the friendly thing and stepped aside for the UFC to make the "HUGE" matchup of Tito-Ken so obviously he gets the next shot right? NO tito peaces out, then they 8 months later he gets a shot at the "interim" title against Randy we all know the story from there. The point is if two guys are "friends" and one is the Champ, the other Number #1 contender dont you give your "friend" his rightful shot? Hughes and Rich is a completely different situation being that neither one of them wants to fight, while Tito/Chuck was Tito not wanting to fight Chuck and Chuck wanting to fight in the worse way. After the fight happened its obvious why Tito didnt want to fight his good "buddy" chuck. While I would love to see a Hughes/Rich fight, you cant make two guys in different weight classes,both title holders, fight each other if neither wants too.

matt said he will move up in weight ig silva beats rich !! dumbass !! why not now because there friends he cant fight a friend he said , chuck sold out to the ufc and dana white plain and simple , he would of had his time to shine but chose dana and his $$$$ that is the only reason i do not like chuck , he is a great fighter not a great friend, shogun his making his $$$$ and keeping his morals as well to say you can ko a friend and have a drink after your a fool , tito has my respect lets see dean and tito not!!! friends dont fight period. chuck turned his back on tito plain and simple, the guy is a sell out.

[TheBonger]

Originally Posted by ortiz#1

you could fight your friend with best of your ability nice guy , what is your great opinon on wandy and shogun ass , friends dont sell out they lived together ( to and chuck) you ass not a class thing iceman!!!

wow what an incoherant response? you want to translate that and I will respond. If Shogun wants to be the best WW in Pride then he will fight Wand if not he will play second fiddle. It is a JOB dude and most people what to be the best at what you do. Rich and Matt can both say that without fighting each other, they are the champs. Its about the Belts man, hating on Chuck cause he is now the face of UFC while Tito is turning into a novelty act isnt going to help your cause man. I wonder if we will ever see you again after Chuck KOs Tito again.