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11-25-2007, 12:25 PM
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war gsp. i just hope he doesn't rush any parts of his training cause of the short notice, and hurts himself. i don't think he needs to train any different, even if he doesn't duplicate the last fight, it should still be enough to beat hughes.
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11-25-2007, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tapper war gsp. i just hope he doesn't rush any parts of his training cause of the short notice, and hurts himself. i don't think he needs to train any different, even if he doesn't duplicate the last fight, it should still be enough to beat hughes.
how about a 1 month av bet palma.  | Thanks for the offer but... Quote: |
Originally Posted by Palma I don't sig bet... people get way too crazy about that shit. Anyways, I am not prediciting a Hughes win, I just said he has the edge. I hope he wins though... I can't believe I am going to root for a fighter I hate and against a fighter I like just to spike you guys, but I am.
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11-25-2007, 01:07 PM
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Im hopin GSP can pull it off, but what makes me nervous is the fact that we KNOW Hughes won't get sucked into a stand up battle like he did last time. if he goes balls to the wall for takedowns, itll be a battle of whats better? Hughes' takedowns, or GSP's takedown defense. Regardless im lookin forward to this about a million times more than I was Serra Hughes.
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11-25-2007, 01:16 PM
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I didn't read all 13 pages so sorry if this is a repeat post. I suppose this means Serra is going to be out a significant amount of time. I mean, an interim title already?!! I'm glad to see it but it won't make much sense if Serra is only gonna be out for a couple of months. WAR GSP!!!!!!! OLE, OLE, OLE OLE!
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11-25-2007, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Paytheplayer Im hopin GSP can pull it off, but what makes me nervous is the fact that we KNOW Hughes won't get sucked into a stand up battle like he did last time. if he goes balls to the wall for takedowns, itll be a battle of whats better? Hughes' takedowns, or GSP's takedown defense. Regardless im lookin forward to this about a million times more than I was Serra Hughes. | I dunno man...GSP was planting Kos all over the place and Kos is a much better wrestler than Hughes IMO.
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11-25-2007, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ChuckBooty I dunno man...GSP was planting Kos all over the place and Kos is a much better wrestler than Hughes IMO. | Exactly; I've been saying this all over the place for the last few days. At this point, Hughes has got nothing that GSP can't handle. Georges completely manhandled Kos, avoiding 99% of his takedowns, and taking him down in turn.
Hughes better rack his brain; he's not taking GSP down.
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11-25-2007, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ChuckBooty I dunno man...GSP was planting Kos all over the place and Kos is a much better wrestler than Hughes IMO. | Kos is a better wrestler, but that doesn't necessarily mean he uses his wrestling in MMA as well as Hughes. A prime example is Tito v Matyushenko.
I think Hughes uses his wrestling and "country strength" much better than Kos uses his wrestling in MMA fights. Probably the reason Hughes is the most dominant WW of all time (with hardly having anything other than a wrestling game) and Kos is.... not.
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11-25-2007, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Palma Man, you people will bitch about anyting including a better fight... get over yourselves... seriously.
This is such a better fight as the idea was to have Hughes and GSP fight as soon as possible and now they are. How can you people bitch about Serra not fighting? I think Serra is a great fighter and can beat Hughes and GSP (obviously) but this is a much better fight with much more on the line since either has a better chance of becoming champion when Serra comes back then beating eachother.
As far as who should win... I have to say Hughes has to have the advantage here. Not only is he in the peak of training anyways, but he was taking his fight with Serra more personally then if he was fighting GSP and I'm sure there was more enthusiasm then usual behind his training as a result. He has probably also been training for a serious ground game since he was fighting Serra, which should translate over to a missmatch since Hughes probably had a slightly better ground game then GSP to begin with.
It's a very simple game plan for Hughes; get GSP down and controll or finish it from there. Standup should only be considered for engauging enough to setup a takedown. If he tries to stand with GSP then he is a fool and deserves to lose.
GSP should be in great shape already and obviously has a striking advantage and has done well against Hughes as far as wrestling and grappling although the one time Hughes got him on his back he gave up an armbar. I can't wait to here the new excuses if GSP loses. I can here it now "he only had 4 weeks to train" |
It's gonna be a great fight regardless but i just wanna know.... what's gonna be your excuse if Hughes losses??:headscratch: If GSP shruggs off the first couple TD's, like in the 2nd fight, hughes is going to sleep, i think it's pretty safe to say that. Hughes has only one dimension(Wrestling) here to beat GSP with and it didnt come close to working in the 2nd fight.
Everyone thought before the Koschek fight that GSP would get taken down at will... now everyone knows that GSP's not only got excellent TDD but good TD's himself, IMO the only thing that could hurt GSP in this fight is the lack of notice for training. I would love for GSP to take down Hughes but I wouldn't be surprised if it ended in similiar fashion as the 2nd fight, GSP shruggs off the TDs for a couple rounds, lands a devestating strike and finishes it on the ground.
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11-25-2007, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jlruthven84 Exactly; I've been saying this all over the place for the last few days. At this point, Hughes has got nothing that GSP can't handle. Georges completely manhandled Kos, avoiding 99% of his takedowns, and taking him down in turn.
Hughes better rack his brain; he's not taking GSP down. | He stuffed one of two TD attempts by Koscheck... wouldn't that be 50%? And he took Koscheck down twice... that's hardley manhandling Koscheck. Quote: |
Originally Posted by TUF5 It's gonna be a great fight regardless but i just wanna know.... what's gonna be your excuse if Hughes losses??:headscratch: If GSP shruggs off the first couple TD's, like in the 2nd fight, hughes is going to sleep, i think it's pretty safe to say that. Hughes has only one dimension(Wrestling) here to beat GSP with and it didnt come close to working in the 2nd fight.
Everyone thought before the Koschek fight that GSP would get taken down at will... now everyone knows that GSP's not only got excellent TDD but good TD's himself, IMO the only thing that could hurt GSP in this fight is the lack of notice for training. I would love for GSP to take down Hughes but I wouldn't be surprised if it ended in similiar fashion as the 2nd fight, GSP shruggs off the TDs for a couple rounds, lands a devestating strike and finishes it on the ground. | Where did I say Hughes will win? And when did Hughes attempt a TD in their 2nd fight besides his last ditch effort in the second?
The biggest reason why GSP is succesful at TD's and TD Defense against wrestlers like Sherk, Koscheck, and Hughes is because they don't gameplan for it. They were focusing more on surviving the standup and they all assumed that their wrestling backgrounds would be good enough to overcome GSP without training and gameplanning their wrestling. Everyone is going to shore up their wrestling against GSP and not be taken off gaurd by his TD attempts and TD Defense. Hughes certainly can take GSP down as well as stuff his attempts.
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11-25-2007, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jlruthven84 Exactly; I've been saying this all over the place for the last few days. At this point, Hughes has got nothing that GSP can't handle. Georges completely manhandled Kos, avoiding 99% of his takedowns, and taking him down in turn.
Hughes better rack his brain; he's not taking GSP down. |
Can GSP handle someone on top of him with the ground game of Hughes, imo i doubt it.
When is the last time we seen GSP on his back with someone like Hughes on top of him.
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