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[smoogy]

FYI whoever asked, Hansen's DSE contract came under Zuffa control at some point, but rather that let him work for whatever figure he had agreed to with DSE the Zuffa brass decided to leverage it against him and offer him a new deal well below the value of the old one. No wonder he is tiffed.

[2mcgrath]

Originally Posted by David Brent

I have been a huge Kenflo hater actually, but the fact is that he has looked impressive in all of his fights at 155 and IMO he has the tools to beat just about anybody besides BJ.

ive been really impressed with him every fight at lw,i think he is improving a great deal.looks like awhole other fighter from when he was on tuf

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by leedogg900

i honestly dont think hansen is a top 10 lw. he will get outwrestled by the wrestlers in the ufc and i think his stock would plumett.

Because 90% of the UFC roster is wrestlers (at least the athletes that were not aquired thru the PRIDE purchase and other free agents they have recently aquired)... That's why MMA is not as exciting as it used to be.

With the way Zuffa is structured, it promotes lnp, point fighting, hesitant, reluctant and timid fighters whom, because of such low salaries, fight to not lose because the only way they can make a measly $30,000 per year is to win all 3 of their fights within a given year, and that's the base pay for MMA athletes hovering around mid-level. Basically MMA will continue to decline as far as excitement of fights until base pays are increased.

Point being, Joachim Hansen is not going to lay on someone for 3 rounds. I'd rather watch him fight than Tyson Griffin, Frankie Edgar, Huerta, Guida, Sherk, etc. lay on someone for 15-25 minutes. I can watch Olympic wre stling for that... call me crazy but when I watch mma, I'm expecting to watch MIXED martial arts, is that not the emphasis on the sports evolution over the past 14 years?

[Dork8503]

Originally Posted by David Brent

Kenflo would just take him down and get the sub IMO. He is very underrated. Shit, Kenflo would beat Tyson Griffin IMO too.




Just b/c they pay me to say things doesn't mean I'm a mouth piece.

Kenflo would not beat Tyson. Tyson is the better striker, much much stronger, would take him down at will, pound on Kenny, Kenny isnt subbing Tyson. Only way Ken wins this fight is a cut.

The Robinson fight Kenny was lucky. Robinson took that fight on very short notice, he ever said after beating Jorge that he gassed in the Kenny fight. If anyone remembers that fight Alvin rocked kenny a few times then just shitted all over him self.

[NixHex]

To everybody thinking he will get wrestled and laid on for 15 minutes apparently hasn't seen how quick he'll throw a knee on a shooting opponent. I think wrestlers play right into him, he'll pick them apart w/ strikes & wait for the shot (ala Franca v Sherk) to connect the knee. Hellboy has always been one of my favorites, and I think he could beat just about anybody at LW (Penn excluded), but he could also lose to plenty of people in (or out of) the LW Top 10.

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by g'nightXX

To everybody thinking he will get wrestled and laid on for 15 minutes apparently hasn't seen how quick he'll throw a knee on a shooting opponent. I think wrestlers play right into him, he'll pick them apart w/ strikes & wait for the shot (ala Franca v Sherk) to connect the knee. Hellboy has always been one of my favorites, and I think he could beat just about anybody at LW (Penn excluded), but he could also lose to plenty of people in (or out of) the LW Top 10.

I read the first 3 pages of this thread saying the EXACT same thing. To think he wouldn't stack up w/ most...... if not all of the UFC's LW's is crazy. Thats one guy none of the LW's would "Run" through. Especially Ken-Flo.

"My soul is not for sale"

[jkilla374]

Originally Posted by David Brent

You are like a child who wanders into a movie half way through and starts trying to ask people what's happening.

Shut the fuck up Donnie.

[the dazzle]

Hellboy would do just fine in the UFC. IMO he would give most of them a run for their money. there are so many potential match ups. The only person i see him getting "tooled" by is BJ. the rest of the fights would be a toss up.

[sandywh]

I don't blame Hellboy for not signing up to fight gret fights and make peanuts doing it. With them pushing 4 or 5 of the other LWs, its doubtful the UFC would give him a serious chance to make a run at the title. He'd likely be mirred in the "Top 5" mix. ANd they'd keep him one fight away from a title shot until he actually lost.

I think the division would be better with him in it, but I don't see him winning a title.