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[piss ant]

Originally Posted by Supreme

CHUCK LIDDELL would have more losses because he would've had to fight RAMPAGE a few times and wouldve lost every time. SHOGUN would also beat CHUCK LIDDELL in PRIDE. The competition is harder in PRIDE and CHUCK would not be champion.

And why do you feel this way if its just a feeling then say so. But if you go by facts you would see Chuck aleast has a winning record in pride. Wandy however does not hve a winning record in the UFC.

[killerinstinct]

I think Wanderlei's career would've been worse had he stayed in the UFC.Yeah he would be great eventually ,but he had back to back UFC losses to Tito and Vitor and going to Pride probably helped out confidence and gave him the nice change of pace he needed.

If he would've stayed in the UFC he would've had to of beat a lot of people before ever getting a title shot and would be first given cans to fight.I don't think he'd be able to beat Randy or Chuck so he'd have less success.

Chuck would probably have less success.Chuck uses the cage to his advantage a lot and in the past he's had problems with conditioning so the longer rounds wouldn't help.

If either Chuck or Wanderlei switched promotions tomorrow they'd both still be very successful ,but things might have panned out differently if they spent most of their career in the other company.I think eventually they'd both be successful ,but there success might've took longer.

[Supreme]

difference is that Wandy lost in UFC a LOOOONG time ago whereas CHUCK lost in Pride pretty recently and his style has not changed at all since then.

Wandy is more well rounded and is much bigger and stronger now than he was before.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by Supreme

difference is that Wandy lost in UFC a LOOOONG time ago whereas CHUCK lost in Pride pretty recently and his style has not changed at all since then.

Wandy is more well rounded and is much bigger and stronger now than he was before.

His style has improved drastically.Watch his 1st fight with Randy than watch his rematches and watch the differences in his approach.

[piss ant]

Originally Posted by Supreme

difference is that Wandy lost in UFC a LOOOONG time ago whereas CHUCK lost in Pride pretty recently and his style has not changed at all since then.

Wandy is more well rounded and is much bigger and stronger now than he was before.

First off Wandy is bigger and stonger because of no steroid testing, let him come to UFC and lets see how much mass he loses

Secondly whats with the excuses and the dreaded "A LONG TIME AGO" that seems to be haunting pride fighters

Wand got his shit pushed "A LONG TIME AGO"
Shogun got choked the f@ck out by babalu "A LONG TIME AGO"
Hughes smashed Sakurai into puty "A LONG TIME AGO"
Kang was once 7-7 and totally sucked balls "A LONG TIME AGO"
Barnett was caught doping and kicked out of the ufc "A LONG TIME AGO"
Saku was caught working a fight with kimo "A LONG TIME AGO"
I could go on but I won't the point is

[Afro]

Originally Posted by piss ant

First off Wandy is bigger and stonger because of no steroid testing, let him come to UFC and lets see how much mass he loses

Secondly whats with the excuses and the dreaded "A LONG TIME AGO" that seems to be haunting pride fighters

Wand got his shit pushed "A LONG TIME AGO"
Shogun got choked the f@ck out by babalu "A LONG TIME AGO"
Hughes smashed Sakurai into puty "A LONG TIME AGO"
Kang was once 7-7 and totally sucked balls "A LONG TIME AGO"
Barnett was caught doping and kicked out of the ufc "A LONG TIME AGO"
Saku was caught working a fight with kimo "A LONG TIME AGO"
I could go on but I won't the point is

smh @ this post

[Mac]

Originally Posted by piss ant

Wow your dumb! You trap a fighter by cutting off angles. By the way thats much easier to do in a square.

No, your dumb, it's easier to push someone against a cage and hold them there than three ropes that stretch. What I was refering to is how he got Tito against the cage and bombed away on him. In a ring that has ropes with give someone could get out of that situation easier. If possible please think before you speak.

[piss ant]

Originally Posted by LILMAC

No, your dumb, it's easier to push someone against a cage and hold them there than three ropes that stretch. What I was refering to is how he got Tito against the cage and bombed away on him. In a ring that has ropes with give someone could get out of that situation easier. If possible please think before you speak.

Yea your right I see Chuck using the cage to pen fighters up against all the time :banghead:

the truth is Chuck a STRIKER he could care less if he fought in a cage or ring the difference between him and wandy that allows him to be successful in a cage while Wandy wouldn't is Chuck's great takedown defence

[AudieMurphy1]

i actually think chuck would benefit from pride rules

[Mac]

Originally Posted by piss ant

Yea your right I see Chuck using the cage to pen fighters up against all the time :banghead:

the truth is Chuck a STRIKER he could care less if he fought in a cage or ring the difference between him and wandy that allows him to be successful in a cage while Wandy wouldn't is Chuck's great takedown defence

What, are you dense did you not read my whole post? I WAS REFERRING TO THE TITO FIGHT! Do you have ADD or something?