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why is everyone making it seem like tito's career is so done.....has he had a string of losses??.. whether he beat shamrock for a while, or whether he won decisions with vitor, forrest and cote... the fact is he was on a 5 fight win streak before facing liddell. He lost to liddell and has fought once since then.. which was against rashad... who many believe that tito would've won the fight if it wasnt for the point taken away.

We haven't seen tito since that fight. Atleast let's see where he goes from here... are we judging that he can't finish someone off when he wins or that he can't beat someone? cuz theyre' two different things.
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I'd like to see thsi fight as a winner take all, that would make it exciting enough for me to watch, other than that I wouldn't be interested.
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why is everyone making it seem like tito's career is so done.....has he had a string of losses??.. whether he beat shamrock for a while, or whether he won decisions with vitor, forrest and cote... the fact is he was on a 5 fight win streak before facing liddell. He lost to liddell and has fought once since then.. which was against rashad... who many believe that tito would've won the fight if it wasnt for the point taken away.

We haven't seen tito since that fight. Atleast let's see where he goes from here... are we judging that he can't finish someone off when he wins or that he can't beat someone? cuz theyre' two different things.
I have sure been trying to make that known.
Tito has been on a downslide for awhile. Your 5 fight win streak? A dec he should have lost to Forrest, a decision over Cote, and one over the shell of Vitor, other wise Ken Shamrock for 2 of those?

Tito has always picked and chose his opponents. The UFC LHW division has been stacked for awhile now and instead of taking the good competition, Tito picks the smallest guy that he thinks he matches up with the best, and then goes on to put on a terrible fight (that he very well could have lost if he wouldn't have held the fence)

Could Tito beat Vitor again? Yeah probably. Are either of them contenders or even legit top ten guys anymore. Nope.
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I have sure been trying to make that known.
Tito has been on a downslide for awhile. Your 5 fight win streak? A dec he should have lost to Forrest, a decision over Cote, and one over the shell of Vitor, other wise Ken Shamrock for 2 of those?

Tito has always picked and chose his opponents. The UFC LHW division has been stacked for awhile now and instead of taking the good competition, Tito picks the smallest guy that he thinks he matches up with the best, and then goes on to put on a terrible fight (that he very well could have lost if he wouldn't have held the fence)

Could Tito beat Vitor again? Yeah probably. Are either of them contenders or even legit top ten guys anymore. Nope.
see thats the thing, we can argue who won the decision in the forrest match or even the vitor match but the point is if they were going to give someone a title shot (if it came down to the two), they woudl give it to the man who won.

People say he picked and chose his opponents but how is that? The last several times... UFC picked his opponents to who they thought was good marketability. Cote was a replacement for mezger, the 2nd shamrock fight was after tuf, and the 3rd was bcuz of the 2nd match controversy. THat third match could've really destroyed tito if he lost... bcuz he had a guaranteed title shot before going into that fight. He had nothing to gain, and everything to lose. Oh yea and fighting rashad isnt picking an opponent... rashad was a bad matchup for tito, better wrestler who has better striking! Although I sitll thought tito would pull it out

Everyone knows tito's gameplan going into the fight, yet he hasn't been dominated by anyone other than chuck or randy and I don't think he will get dominated by anyone soon. The point is we still havent seen the downfall of tito yet until he starts losing.
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