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[SimpleJack]

Great, who invited the politics police into the thread....lol.

I can't respect the man for his politics because I feel like his type would find so-called oppression anywhere they looked. He's rich and has a certain amount of fame. He supports big business in many senses of the word by fighting on PPV and for the UFC. Whatever.

[jrube]

Originally Posted by Rufio

Without trying to get this moved to Politics and Relgion:

1. I don't like it when people use "American" as a synonym for "good." There's good and bad in any nationality. And speaking of things as "un-American" harkens back to the McCarthy Communist witch hunts.

2. The US was actually founded on an un-patriotic rebellion against the government the founding fathers had sworn allegiance to. Agree with him or not, Monson is preaching rebellion against current governments for what he perceives as oppression. That's very much in line with the spirit of the Declaratiion of Indepence.

3. It is strange why an anarchist would have a symbol of the Soviet Union. I'm guesing he agrees with some of Marx's views on capitalism, at least in a corporate-controlled society, without actually condoning Soviet government strucutre. Or something like that.

I applaud your effort... but it didn't work...

[notrightn0w]

Monson is the fucking man in grappling world. I still see him getting better at MMA, he's beginning to learn that you need to strike a bit to, he was pretty much the exact opposite of Chuck until recently.

DIdn't he just win the no-gi mundials?

[MONSONBYCHOKE]

Originally Posted by jrube

Being a bright guy doesn't justify his politics.... The whole anarchy and hammer and sickle is just plain anti American, and as a military vet I don't take it very well... He could at least say thanks to people like me who put their lives on the line for his right to freedom of speech.... Honestly... the anarchy and russian sickle things are way i love to see him lose so much.... just my opinion, and I earned my right to have it! :-)

We all have the right to our own opinion. Just cause he has different views on something does not mean he has to justify why he feels that way. Everyone has different views on one thing or another. Who cares if he has a hammer and sickle on his leg he is entilted to that if he wants. That does not necessarily make him a bad guy. Also just b ecause he has the hammer and sickle does not mean its because of Communism. The sickle and Hammer represents the unity of peasants and workers. Which would explain His views on how people should work together and thus people would not have to pay for certain things, yada yada yada. Does not mean its all about Communism

[Rufio]

I almost wonder if it's some kind of joke or something. I've never seen Monson talk about a "classless society" or anything of that nature. Being an anarchist, by definition he'd have to be against The Soviet Union.

[SimpleJack]

He's a fucking weirdo. Simple.

[MONSONBYCHOKE]

Originally Posted by Rufio

I almost wonder if it's some kind of joke or something. I've never seen Monson talk about a "classless society" or anything of that nature. Being an anarchist, by definition he'd have to be against The Soviet Union.

I think you put it best in # 3 of your last post. Thats why he has that symbol on his leg, Its not in support of the soviet Union. As I also stated in my last post

[notrightn0w]

from what I've heard straight from his mouth, he is more of a Libertarian-Soclalist than he is Anarchist or communist.

Libertarian socialism is a group of political philosophies that aim to create a society without political, economic or social hierarchies – a society in which all violent or coercive institutions would be dissolved, and in their place every person would have free, equal access to tools of information and production, or a society in which such coercive institutions and hierarchies were drastically reduced in scope.[1]
This equality and freedom would be achieved through the abolition of authoritarian institutions and private property[2], in order that direct control of the means of production and resources will be gained by the working class and society as a whole. Libertarian socialism also constitutes a tendency of thought that informs the identification, criticism and practical dismantling of illegitimate authority in all aspects of social life. Accordingly libertarian socialists believe that “the exercise of power in any institutionalized form – whether economic, political, religious, or sexual – brutalizes both the wielder of power and the one over whom it is exercised.”[3]
While many varieties of socialism emphasize the role of the state or political party in promoting liberty and social justice, libertarian socialists place their hopes in trade unions, workers' councils, municipalities, citizens' assemblies, and other non-bureaucratic, decentralized means of action.[4] Most libertarian socialists advocate doing away with the state altogether, seeing it as a bulwark of capitalist class rule.[5]
Political philosophies commonly described as libertarian socialist include: many varieties of anarchism (including anarchist communism, anarchist collectivism, anarcho-syndicalism[6] and some forms of individualist anarchism[7]), mutualism, social ecology,[8] and council communism[9] (or even communism itself, as it is described by Karl Marx or Lenin in a further stage of development of socialism). The terms anarchist communism and libertarian communism should not be considered synonyms for libertarian socialism. Some scholars use libertarian socialism synonymously with anarchism.[10]

[MONSONBYCHOKE]

Originally Posted by notrightn0w

from what I've heard straight from his mouth, he is more of a Libertarian-Soclalist than he is Anarchist or communist.

Yes thats correct, there are quite a few interviews where Jeff explains himself on this topic. I will find out exactley why he has that Tat. I will let everyone know in a few days

[notrightn0w]

He mentions that his Anarchist views were rooted in socialism here: