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09-07-2006, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Supreme Matt Hughes losing twice to Mark Hallman and getting dominated by a smaller BJ Penn and still being recognized as the best UFC champion ever.
I find that controversial (or maybe just stupid) | Who else would you consider to be a better champion than Hughes? I can't think of anyone who has been as dominant as Hughes has. Sure, he's lost fights. Everyone does.
But since losing to BJ, has anyone even come close to hurting Hughes? I don't think so.
Obviously I feel its the Ken/Tito II stoppage. Granted Ken went limp, but he snapped right back. Herb Dean didn't even give him a second.
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09-07-2006, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by drunksincerity Who else would you consider to be a better champion than Hughes? I can't think of anyone who has been as dominant as Hughes has. Sure, he's lost fights. Everyone does.
But since losing to BJ, has anyone even come close to hurting Hughes? I don't think so.
Obviously I feel its the Ken/Tito II stoppage. Granted Ken went limp, but he snapped right back. Herb Dean didn't even give him a second. | GSP had him bleeding didnt he?
and Frank Trigg has come close to beating him
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09-07-2006, 11:50 AM
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Just look at his career, who he's beat and how many times he's defended his title. He unlike many other overated fighters deserves the respect and recognition that he gets. He doesn't duck anyone and when he does lose he doesn't come up with bullshit excuses, he just improves and comes back stronger... He is a true champion. And it is Dennis Hallman. lol...
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09-07-2006, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai GSP had him bleeding didnt he?
and Frank Trigg has come close to beating him | Frank Trigg kneed him in the balls (twice!) and had a rear naked locked in, and STILL couldnt finish the man.
I don't remember if GSP had him bleeding or not. I could be wrong.
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09-07-2006, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by drunksincerity Frank Trigg kneed him in the balls (twice!) and had a rear naked locked in, and STILL couldnt finish the man.
I don't remember if GSP had him bleeding or not. I could be wrong. | ya GSP had him hurt thats for sure, he kicked him right in the stomach, he was overpowering his takedowns as well.. but you still make a good point.
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09-07-2006, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai ya GSP had him hurt thats for sure, he kicked him right in the stomach, he was overpowering his takedowns as well.. but you still make a good point. | Oh yeah I do remember that kick now. Yeah, it was pretty vicious, but then that armbar popped out of nowhere. But that also goes to show how good a champion he is. He takes a lick and keeps with the gameplan.
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09-07-2006, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by up_n_comer What about Ricco Rodriguez Vs. Nogueira the announcers thought Rodriguez had it won no problem and I did too I still think this was due to PRIDE not wanting to give a UFC fighter a win. | as long as pride hires there on refs one could legitimatelly claim a bias
thats like the Lakers hiring there own refs for a basketball game
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09-07-2006, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ArMnHC i think you mean Dennis Hallman...LOL | owned  | |
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