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12-19-2007, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullock It does make you wonder if moving down to 185 will really change anything for him. | I doubt Bisping could crack the top 20 at LHW, he has a solid chance to be on the fringes of top 10 at MW. I don't see him as a top 10 guy, but time will tell.
I do think the UFC MW division is all over the news...it's nice that rebuilding the division has been given priority. Quote:
Originally Posted by osuwrestling I think there are a lot of guys that can light Bisping up @ 185. Terry Martin might be a good matchup | I actually think Bisping--who I don't think is that good--wouldn't have much trouble with Martin. Bisping is a very technical striker, with 6-8 inches of reach on Martin. MMA math being what it is...if Bisping can avoid a brawling Hamill--who is bigger, stronger and just as technical as Martin, I can't see Martin getting any chance to beat him, other than a flash KO, maybe 1 out of 10 times. I'd predict similar results with a matchup with Leben.
I think a match with MacDonald could go either way, and would be an entertaining fight. If Bisping really wants to make a splash and quell the perception that he's overhyped and protected--both of which I agree with--his camp should any matchups with cans or tune-up fights, and get him in there with someone like MacDonald, pronto.
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12-19-2007, 05:42 AM
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id rather see bisping vs leban
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12-19-2007, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by leedogg900 I'd rather see bisping vs leban | Me to.
Or J Mac vs Leben
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12-19-2007, 05:59 AM
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MacDonalds wants him some Gabe Ruediger.
Oops wrong way round.
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12-19-2007, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by captonion Me to.
Or J Mac vs Leben | that fight has already happened...
it was a very good inclination of what happens to Macdonald when he fights a superior striker, he gets his ass kicked! Leben used his face as a moving punching bag right up until it went to the ground and Leben was submitted. hell even Rory Singer beat Macdonald up on the feet before it went to the ground.
i think a fight with Bisping would be similar, but Bisping would win. Bisping's hands are faster then Leben's, and while he may not have KO power he could very easily pick Macdonald apart towards a TKO.
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12-19-2007, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ArMnHC that fight has already happened...
it was a very good inclination of what happens to Macdonald when he fights a superior striker, he gets his ass kicked! Leben used his face as a moving punching bag right up until it went to the ground and Leben was submitted. hell even Rory Singer beat Macdonald up on the feet before it went to the ground.
i think a fight with Bisping would be similar, but Bisping would win. Bisping's hands are faster then Leben's, and while he may not have KO power he could very easily pick Macdonald apart towards a TKO. | I don't recall Leben kicking his ass at all. MacDonald isn't known as a striker, but I didn't think Leben even hurt him, or Singer for that matter.
I would also put Bispings KO power minimally at Leben's level. I'm biased, I don't think Leben should even be in the UFC...but I'd still say Michael has more power than Chris.
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12-19-2007, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rivethead I don't recall Leben kicking his ass at all. MacDonald isn't known as a striker, but I didn't think Leben even hurt him, or Singer for that matter.
I would also put Bispings KO power minimally at Leben's level. I'm biased, I don't think Leben should even be in the UFC...but I'd still say Michael has more power than Chris.
rh | they may have never hurt Macdonald, but they were still picking him apart on the feet. Mac has a decent chin, but still his stand up sucks.
Leben has some very good power, seeing the list of guys he's KOd...Rivera, Santiago, Martin, etc...i still wouldnt say Bisping has more power. but Bisping's hands are just better all around, and he can hurt someone better with flurries and not have to throw a knockout shot like Leben has had to do in the past.
OH MY GOD, im talking well of Bisping! someone put me out of my misery before i say anything else ludicrous ok lol
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12-19-2007, 03:08 PM
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The thing that frustrates me about MacDonald is, if he'd just spend a few months working on NOTHING BUT STANDUP, he could be a huge force in the MW division. He's a big 185, and has a stellar ground game, but his striking and strike defense suck.
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12-19-2007, 03:16 PM
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lol..... why is Macdonald even taking, who is he, what has he done???????? ... that guys a complete joke to be comenting on a fighter that will probably hand his ass to him in the 1st
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12-19-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DRExLOC lol..... why is Macdonald even taking, who is he, what has he done???????? ... that guys a complete joke to be comenting on a fighter that will probably hand his ass to him in the 1st | well at least he believes in himself........................HAHAHAHAHAHA
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