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[jlruthven84]

Originally Posted by DonFrye

I'm picking Hughes here. But, what the hell do I know, I thought CC would be champ by now and that Forrest would get mauled by Shogun.

No slight to you personally, but I don't see how anyone could pick Hughes in this fight. He's not going to take GSP down...and even if he did, GSP is not one to be smothered. In the Koscheck fight, that bout went exactly where GSP wanted it to; his octagon command is top notch.

[SimpleJack]

None taken, but I think Hughes would manhandle Koscheck and he still holds a victory over GSP. How can anyone say it's impossible for the greatest Welter champ of all time to win here? Jesus, GSP was KO'ed by fucking Serra. Come on. Hughes was just way too cocky last time and didn't fight his fight at all.

[jlruthven84]

Originally Posted by DonFrye

None taken, but I think Hughes would manhandle Koscheck and he still holds a victory over GSP. How can anyone say it's impossible for the greatest Welter champ of all time to win here? Jesus, GSP was KO'ed by fucking Serra. Come on. Hughes was just way too cocky last time and didn't fight his fight at all.

Definitely see your point, but GSP underestimated Serra and paid for it, not counting on his heavy hands. Hughes will certainly go down in history as one of the greatest WW champs of all time, but GSP just has his number.

The thing is, I think everyone knows what to expect from Hughes: takedowns, and GNP. GSP's game is just so varied and well-rounded, you never really know how to train for him.

And yes, Hughes would take Kos in an MMA fight, but Kos is a better classic wrestler than Hughes is, and if he couldn't outwrestle GSP, Hughes won't either.

[mattyc]

Originally Posted by jlruthven84

Definitely see your point, but GSP underestimated Serra and paid for it, not counting on his heavy hands. Hughes will certainly go down in history as one of the greatest WW champs of all time, but GSP just has his number.

The thing is, I think everyone knows what to expect from Hughes: takedowns, and GNP. GSP's game is just so varied and well-rounded, you never really know how to train for him.

And yes, Hughes would take Kos in an MMA fight, but Kos is a better classic wrestler than Hughes is, and if he couldn't outwrestle GSP, Hughes won't either.

I see what you're saying. I'm no MMA expert, so I can't say what Hughes should or shouldn't do in his fight with GSP. But I would advise Hughes to never at one point be just standing for more than 10 seconds. Shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot and push, push, push, push. Keep running at him. Sounds stupid, but if quality doesn't work, try quantity. Hell, if you need to, crawl toward him. Hell, JUMP on him! I don't think anyone wants Hughes to try to knock GSP out, but all Hughes needs is to take GSP down once per round, and he could be there for the majority of the round. Yeah, everyone will hate Hughes for it, but that's how you play the game.

[Jory]

I'm pulling for Hughes to win for the mere fact of wanting to see him beat the shit out of Serra and shut him up.

[jlruthven84]

Originally Posted by mattyc

I see what you're saying. I'm no MMA expert, so I can't say what Hughes should or shouldn't do in his fight with GSP. But I would advise Hughes to never at one point be just standing for more than 10 seconds. Shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot and push, push, push, push. Keep running at him. Sounds stupid, but if quality doesn't work, try quantity. Hell, if you need to, crawl toward him. Hell, JUMP on him! I don't think anyone wants Hughes to try to knock GSP out, but all Hughes needs is to take GSP down once per round, and he could be there for the majority of the round. Yeah, everyone will hate Hughes for it, but that's how you play the game.

If Hughes keeps running at GSP trying to take him down, GSP's going to make him pay big time. To beat GSP, Hughes would have to totally revamp his game, and that's not gonna happen.

[singinkangaroooo]

Originally Posted by jlruthven84

If Hughes keeps running at GSP trying to take him down, GSP's going to make him pay big time. To beat GSP, Hughes would have to totally revamp his game, and that's not gonna happen.

i completly agree... you can only use the same gameplan for so long until everyone figures it out and capitalizes on it... i see Hughes possibly trying to clinch GSP into the fence and take him down.. but it is SOOOO much harder to take some1 down when they have their back against a wall/cage... take it from personal experience but maybe Hughes' clinch game will bore his way to victory...

if Hughes does keep just coming forward i think GSP will KO him... even if he takes shots they will eventually get sloppy and he will get his head shot into the balcony again... Hughes is a 5-1 underdog for a reason... like i said before its going to take freak accident or quick submission or a deep cut for Hughes to walk home with that belt....

[SimpleJack]

Really, he just needs to actually set up his takedowns. Something he did absolutely none of in the last fight. GSP has a great sprawl, but if Hughes pushes him backwards and then TOTALLY commits to the TD, he can take him down. Otherwise, it'll be a long night for him.

[Rufio]

Hughes can also clinch with GSP, lift him, and slam him. Which is one big difference when it comes to fighting Hughes compared to fighting Koscheck.

[Palma]

Originally Posted by jlruthven84

No slight to you personally, but I don't see how anyone could pick Hughes in this fight. He's not going to take GSP down...and even if he did, GSP is not one to be smothered. In the Koscheck fight, that bout went exactly where GSP wanted it to; his octagon command is top notch.

What are you talking about, GSP is not one to be smothered?

Out of the two times we've seen GSP get takendown and put on his back he was subbed by Hughes and controlled by Koscheck until the end of the round.

GSP is clearly mismatched with Hughes once the fight gets to the ground and if you think Hughes is going to try and stand again then think again.

And if you think Hughes can't take GSP down then maybe you should watch their first fight when Hughes did take GSP down.

GSP is a good wrestler and a good striker but he is not a good BJJ practioner and Hughes is. GSP can only beat Hughes standing, because on the ground he will get subbed AGAIN.