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Okami have some kind of deathwish all of a sudden?

[NixHex]

Originally Posted by Marlo Black

If he puts Silva on his back, whose to say the result isn't the same as the Silva/Lutter fight? For someone that was such a dangerous ground guy (good takedowns, good control, good subs), he ended up getting destroyed with bows while having top position. .

Lutter's top game can't touch Okami's, Okami has much better control, better posture, & more strength.

Originally Posted by Marlo Black

If Silva loses, it's to Hendo--no one else anytime soon

Everybody thought GSP was going to rule WW for years until Matt Serra came along.

Everybody was waiting for Shogun to rightly take over the LHW division until Forrest changed those plans.

Cro Cop was going to fight Couture after disposing of some guy named Gonzaga but that fell through.

Pulver was coming back to reclaim the LW division until an unknown kid named Lauzon KO'd him in the 1st Round.

I've learned to never say never, and Okami has enough tools to beat Silva on any given night.

[BigBanda]

Sorry Okami... take a number lol

[Ramma]

Originally Posted by Marlo Black

If he puts Silva on his back, whose to say the result isn't the same as the Silva/Lutter fight? For someone that was such a dangerous ground guy (good takedowns, good control, good subs), he ended up getting destroyed with bows while having top position. If Silva loses, it's to Hendo--no one else anytime soon.

Difference is that Lutter was extremely sloppy in his fight (and clearly in his preparation as he didn't even make weight) with Anderson Silva.

I don't think Lutter would have necessarily won, but still, just making a statement..

Honestly, Okami was getting beat in his fight with Silva, before the DQ.. but I say the fight is still worth seeing, and I think Okami could still win.

Chances are, Hendo is the guy to beat Anderson, but don't rule Okami out.

[TN94z]

So we need to let Okami fight Silva even though he lost to Franklin and Franklin lost to Silva twice?

[NixHex]

Originally Posted by TN94z

So we need to let Okami fight Silva even though he lost to Franklin and Franklin lost to Silva twice?

MMA Math need not apply. Okami is 5-1 in the UFC with quality wins, and if he were to win his next fight he'd be 6-1 and more deserving than anybody else if Silva were to beat Hendo (do we really need a Silva v Franklin III?).

[Marlo Black]

Originally Posted by NixHex

Lutter's top game can't touch Okami's, Okami has much better control, better posture, & more strength.


Everybody thought GSP was going to rule WW for years until Matt Serra came along.

Everybody was waiting for Shogun to rightly take over the LHW division until Forrest changed those plans.

Cro Cop was going to fight Couture after disposing of some guy named Gonzaga but that fell through.

Pulver was coming back to reclaim the LW division until an unknown kid named Lauzon KO'd him in the 1st Round.

I've learned to never say never, and Okami has enough tools to beat Silva on any given night.

My point was people thought he could be taken down and beaten, that clearly didn't happen. I don't see many holes, if any, in Silva's game. He's looked unstoppable, even untouchable, since his arrival in the UFC. He's basically walked through everyone, including the guy that had been holding down the MW division for a while twice in embarrassing fashion. Sure, anyone can win in MMA, I get that part. I just don't see what Okami, or anyone not named Henderson, has that Silva doesn't have or hasn't seen already. Hell, or even do better.

[Quintessential Studmuffin]

Anyone doubting Okami is fucking delirious,I think he could deffinetly control Silva on the ground. If he can go to the ground and dominate guys like Macdonald,Singer,and Starnes(who all have very solid ground games,Singer and Mac especially) then why cant he do the same with Silva?

Okamis also beat guys with striking far better then his own in Belcher and Swick.

I dont think Okami has a 'death wish' or is 'asking for a beating'. I think if he can avoid Andersons clinch,take him down,and control him,he could have a great chance at beating him.


I say give him Bisping first,if he beats Bisping give him whoever the champ is. Id take Okami/Silva 2 over Silva/Franklin 3 any day of the week.

[TN94z]

Originally Posted by NixHex

MMA Math need not apply. Okami is 5-1 in the UFC with quality wins, and if he were to win his next fight he'd be 6-1 and more deserving than anybody else if Silva were to beat Hendo (do we really need a Silva v Franklin III?).

I agree with you on the part about Silva v Franklin. The only reason I would want to see that is just to see Silva fight and I am a huge Franklin fan. I guess for the sake of having someone for Silva to fight other than fighting Franklin again, then yeah Okami should fight him. I just don't see how he can get a chance to fight him without getting by Franklin again first. I mean Franklin has beat everyone that he has fought lately(including Okami) with the exception of Silva. Maybe that would be better for Franklin. Maybe Okami beats Silva and the Franklin beats Okami again and gets the title back...

With all that being said, my picks for 2007 were a little shy of terrible so I am not betting against anyone anymore!!

[NixHex]

Originally Posted by Marlo Black

My point was people thought he could be taken down and beaten, that clearly didn't happen. I don't see many holes, if any, in Silva's game. He's looked unstoppable, even untouchable, since his arrival in the UFC. He's basically walked through everyone, including the guy that had been holding down the MW division for a while twice in embarrassing fashion. Sure, anyone can win in MMA, I get that part. I just don't see what Okami, or anyone not named Henderson, has that Silva doesn't have or hasn't seen already. Hell, or even do better.

He has looked very, very good since coming to the UFC... and I think i'd have him #1 on my p4p rankings. But he's not infallable, he got triangle choked by Takase (who has a below .500 record), and he got flying heel hooked by Chonan (should never happen to a BJJ Black Belt).

I got the point of Silva being taken down & beaten... but that was Travis Lutter, who is nowhere near to Okami's level in the top game. Silva was winning the first fight before being DQ'd, but the streak Silva is on reminds me of GSP's dominant run through all the best guys in his class only to be KO'd by Serra. Stranger things have happened than Okami beating Silva for sure.