View Poll Results: Is BJ Penn hypocritical for asking Hermes for help?
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Old 12-21-2007, 02:43 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I've gotta disagree. Although an extreme analogy, it is like telling a 60 year cancer patient that his smoking weed to relieve pain is just as bad as a 19 year old kid smoking weed to get high.

Drug use is not a black and white issue.
Drug use for curing a disease isn't black and white


Drug use for performance enhancement (whether for healing or strength or anything) certainly is..

You don't use steroids, period.
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Old 12-21-2007, 02:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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BJ probably asked Hermes to come train with him, because he wants to roll with a fighter who has known BJJ skills. Stevenson is a great grappler, Penn knows this, and wants to train with the best because he knows damn well the fight will go to the ground. plus since Franca admitted he cheated, im sure BJ has much more respect for him.
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BJ probably asked Hermes to come train with him, because he wants to roll with a fighter who has known BJJ skills. Stevenson is a great grappler, Penn knows this, and wants to train with the best because he knows damn well the fight will go to the ground. plus since Franca admitted he cheated, im sure BJ has much more respect for him.
If that is the case, then BJ is being forgiving and not hypocritical in anyway.

If only we could hear from BJ lol
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Old 12-21-2007, 03:16 PM   #24 (permalink)
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If that is the case, then BJ is being forgiving and not hypocritical in anyway.

If only we could hear from BJ lol
he's done a lot of interviews lately, im sure we will LOL
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If that is the case, then BJ is being forgiving and not hypocritical in anyway.

If only we could hear from BJ lol
You wanna know what Bj Penn thinks??? Goto bjpenn.com !!!!


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damn.... I guess we'll never know.
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Plus, if what hermes said is true, that he used steroids to heal, it is different than what sherk did, which is to use roids to get a competitive advantage. My understanding was that hermes injured himself in training, and used roirds/hgh to heal up so he could fight sherk. Sherk used roids to gain advantage.

plus hermes came clean and admitted it, sherk has not.

so, while it may look hypocritical at first, it really isn't IMO.
How is taking roids to heal faster not a competitive edge??? Franca takes roids to heal faster and fights at 100%, or Franca doesn't take roids and fights at 85%......sounds like a competitive edge to me.
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this is a genius move for BJ. He is getting head start for Sherk.

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Hes gotta train with a roided muthafucka to prepare for a fight with an even more roided muthafucka. Gotta know what to expect when fighting a roider.
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Some people seem to think that Franca roiding in july means him being in top shape now. It´s not like you´re going to have advantage over every opponent for rest of your career if you use them once.
B.J doesn´t probably want Hermes to teach him enything, just to have a bjj blackbelt and good mma grappler simular to Joe daddys size to roll with. He´s not going to work his groung game with Troy Mandaloniz you know. =)
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