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[Dr. MMA]

wait i see a lot of ppl hate on gsp bcuz fans on the forums has hugged on his nuts or bcuz dana white calls him the one of the best p4p fighters in mma?

That's pure b.s... like him for the way he fights or his attitude

or you can not like him for how he fights or the way he handles himself.

It's pathetic how many of your opinions are swayed (towards dislike usually) because of other people's opinion (nuthuggery)

[SimpleJack]

Hey, welcome to the thread. I made a mistake in my post, Kos wasn't mentioned. However, I guarantee you that Kos or Rashad Evans can take GSP down in sparring and did in their fight.
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[dsecret]

I just dont think anyone took serra seriously against GSP including gsp himself.. and things like that tend to happen when you dont take your opponent seriously.. If you think serra could beat gsp 9 out of 10 times you have some problems...

[macewen]

Originally Posted by rivethead

What areas would you say GSP was competative in the fight? Did he out-grapple Serra? Did he out-strike him?

Did he give a better game face at the weigh in?

GSP got owned. It wasn't a lucky punch, it was [as DonFrye eloquently pointed out] like 10 successive shots. The sooner GSP fanboys get over it, the better. I really, really hate Serra, but I find the GSP nuthuggery even more distasteful.

Even if he beats Hughes and reclaims the title, it won't be vindication for the sheer and utter pwnage dropped on him by a natural lightweight.

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haha pwnage....play WoW much? lol

[Bod]

Originally Posted by dsecret

I just dont think anyone took serra seriously against GSP including gsp himself.. and things like that tend to happen when you dont take your opponent seriously.. If you think serra could beat gsp 9 out of 10 times you have some problems...

You may be right in saying that GSP didn't take Serra seriously, but GSP said that at the time he was about to fight Serra he had some personnal problems in his life. Was it true? We can't really tell. But having watched him figth many times, it wasn't the GSP I knew against Serra, and I don't recall GSP using excuses for his other losses, so in my opinion it was true.

[Bullock]

It's going to be a rough night for Hughes me thinks.

[kc56]

Originally Posted by Bullock

It's going to be a rough night for Hughes me thinks.

Yeah, I have to agree.

I understand people hating on GSP for the nuthugging that goes on. I feel the exact way about BJ Penn. I want him to lose every single fight because people live for him way to much, and because he is a waste of natural talent because he doesn't seem to take his chosen profession to seriously, especially the training portion of it.

Now, back to this fight. I truly believe GSP bought into his own hype. Who here didn't know somebody here that thought they were invincible in their early 20s? I know that I myself was that guy. And when you have everyone in the world telling you that you are a god among men? Well, I can see how that would go to a young kid's head.

Yes, Serra beat him. What did we know about GSP's training, camp, and technique before? Some. I went by the gym where he trained when I was in Quebec (no he wasn't there) but that is still not a camp of constantly improving professional athletes and professional coaches.

As a GSP fan, I will be the first to say, he has gotten past some suspect technique with his natural athletic ability, his size and his GnP. Since working with Jackson he is working much harder and has someone who will criticize his mistakes and help him improve. After the Kos fight, I am sure he now knows how to properly sink in a Kimura.

The other thing, it that in that fight with Kos, that was the biggest looking GSP I have ever seen. He was already a huge and powerful WW, and they look to have built on top of that.

Hughes is in for a rough night. Not necessarily a long night mind you, but a rough night.

[ninjastix]

Originally Posted by kc56

Now, back to this fight. I truly believe GSP bought into his own hype. Who here didn't know somebody here that thought they were invincible in their early 20s? I know that I myself was that guy. And when you have everyone in the world telling you that you are a god among men? Well, I can see how that would go to a young kid's head.

Yes, Serra beat him. What did we know about GSP's training, camp, and technique before? Some. I went by the gym where he trained when I was in Quebec (no he wasn't there) but that is still not a camp of constantly improving professional athletes and professional coaches.

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I fail to understand why any explanations are needed...

Gsp lost the fight... After the fight he made no excuses... what was the result of that? A bombardment by MMA media asking him over and over again how he could lose to Serra. The president of the organization, After GSP lost 1 fight, questions his ability to compete at the top...

So what did GSP do?... He told them what happened... his cousin, who was in a coma and ended up dying, distracted him from an opponent he didn't properly prepare for...

What did Serra do?... He whined like a little girl that GSP had undermined his entire victory.

What did GSP do?... He called Serra... personally... to apologize and apologized to his fans...

So like Dr. MMA said... like him for the way he fights, dislike him because he's French Canadian... but anything makes more sense that accusing GSP of believing or saying that it was a lucky punch that was his cryptonite...

I can assure he's done neither...

But what has he done?... He's changed camps, is attending sports therapy, and is training harder than ever before and has shown that he can return to being a dominant Welter Weight...

Win or Lose YOU CANNOT DIMINISH HIS CHARACTER. The guy has been the epitome of professionalism in winning and losing and I say that even with the comments said post-Serra because he ACTIVELY SOUGHT TO MAKE AMMENDS FOR IT...

That speaks to a character of accepting responsibility, not making excuses.... His comments after his win over Hughes says all you ever need to know about him...

[scottsec]

Originally Posted by nhenry87

If all that is stated true, then I feel sorry for Hughes

Shit...i dont...

[blazeallwayz]

Fisrt off, I would like to start off by saying I am a GSP fan, but that doesn't mean I hug his nuts - he's got a jock strap for that, I'm just a fan. Now, let's get down to business... whoever thinks Hughes has a great shot at winning this fight may be suffering from slight mental problems. Just look at their two previous fights and you will see both were one-sided toward GSP dominating! Even in their first bout, GSP owned Hughes until he overcomitted that kimura and was reversed into an armbar right before the bell.

Not enough evidence? How about the fact that Matt Hughes is "scurd" of GSP. I know this may sound odd because Hughes chose to fight him, but he did it with the intention that GSP would not have a complete training camp before their fight! Matt Hughes actually has stated this (not exactly the heart of a champion talking imo). In addition, Matt Hughes has also stated that he feels he only has a few fights left in him before he retires. Let me think for a second as to why he would say that in his early thirties, oh I got it! He realizes the game is now passing him by and soon he will be the "greatest welter weight in UFC history" to be coersed into coming out of retirement by Dana only to get smashed by the UFC's next big thing (you know similar to how he handled Royce Gracie).

Just trying to invoke more thoughts...