The Iceman Will Stick to His Plan Againts Wandy - Page 2

BigBanda · 12-28-2007, 07:55 AM

I'm just ready for a damn war and thats what I want no matter who wins. I dont really see Chuck needing to change a whole lot in his normal fighting style against a fighter like Wand anyways. I'm sure he did some minor changes and is hopefully more mentally focused and aggressive like we are hearing. Wand is an aggressive fighter that comes at you. Liddell's bread and butter is counter-striking which will maybe play well for him in this fight. Wand is coming of 2 viscous KO losses and that tells us that Chuck is very capable of knocking Wand out and for sure capable of rocking him. It goes both ways though because Wand can do the same to Chuck. It's going to come down to which fighter connects first. Should be interesting.

bryanw33 · 12-28-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrix

Chuck Liddell is losing because other fighters have finally decided not to play into his gameplan. He relies on the other fighter's aggression to cause them to slip up and make a mistake that opens them up to a shot on the chin.

Fighters have finally realized that if you don't charge him like a taser'd crack whore, you can have your own gameplan and work him over. It was clear that Liddell was getting frustrated in the latter half of the Ortiz fight. Tito even had him nearly mounted with hooks in.

And when Rampage threw his hands up in the middle of the fight to protest Chuck's constant retreating, that's when Chuck fell apart and made his mistake. Jardine simply refused to charge at Liddell recklessly, and worked him over with kicks.

Chuck's losing cause he's been figured out and the wiser fighters have adapted to him.

apparently i need to watch this fight again, because i dont recall 1 time where tito was even close to mounting chuck, i remembewr 1 time tito dragging chuck to down on top of him and then chuck standing right back up, but nowhere near mounted, and there were no hooks

Matrix · 12-28-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bryanw33

apparently i need to watch this fight again, because i dont recall 1 time where tito was even close to mounting chuck, i remembewr 1 time tito dragging chuck to down on top of him and then chuck standing right back up, but nowhere near mounted, and there were no hooks

No, no, I meant that Tito had mounted his back, and almost had hooks in. He was trying to work his hooks in there but his grip slipped and he got off.

Perhaps I had not made myself clear, sorry.

Misfits138 · 12-28-2007, 03:18 PM

Jackson and Jardine both strategized their attacks to neutralize Chuck's game. Normally, I would say a change of style would be in order, but not against Wanderlei. In every fight prior to this one, Wanderlei has always rushed his opponents with flurries. This plays perfectly to Chuck's style of counterpunching during openings. Unless Wanderlei is willing to change up his attack plan, I'd say Chuck has an excellent chance of taking this one.

LoonY ToonZ · 12-28-2007, 05:18 PM

why do people care about this fight. These guys both suffered bad loses and they are both dinosours, Wand looks like hes fucking 65 years old and is half the size he was. Chuck has shown that anyone who can stay right in front of him will kick the shit out of him. Chuck has less conditioning then butter bean. Yet you people consider this a big fight. The hell is wrong with you guys?

BigBanda · 12-28-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LoonY ToonZ

why do people care about this fight. These guys both suffered bad loses and they are both dinosours, Wand looks like hes fucking 65 years old and is half the size he was. Chuck has shown that anyone who can stay right in front of him will kick the shit out of him. Chuck has less conditioning then butter bean. Yet you people consider this a big fight. The hell is wrong with you guys?

Wow... go back and watch your loony toons

Warchief · 12-28-2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LoonY ToonZ

why do people care about this fight. These guys both suffered bad loses and they are both dinosours, Wand looks like hes fucking 65 years old and is half the size he was. Chuck has shown that anyone who can stay right in front of him will kick the shit out of him. Chuck has less conditioning then butter bean. Yet you people consider this a big fight. The hell is wrong with you guys?

Diaz420 · 12-28-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LoonY ToonZ

why do people care about this fight. These guys both suffered bad loses and they are both dinosours, Wand looks like hes fucking 65 years old and is half the size he was. Chuck has shown that anyone who can stay right in front of him will kick the shit out of him. Chuck has less conditioning then butter bean. Yet you people consider this a big fight. The hell is wrong with you guys?

I worry about people like you...

twankydawg · 12-29-2007, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBanda

I'm just ready for a damn war and thats what I want no matter who wins. I dont really see Chuck needing to change a whole lot in his normal fighting style against a fighter like Wand anyways. I'm sure he did some minor changes and is hopefully more mentally focused and aggressive like we are hearing. Wand is an aggressive fighter that comes at you. Liddell's bread and butter is counter-striking which will maybe play well for him in this fight. Wand is coming of 2 viscous KO losses and that tells us that Chuck is very capable of knocking Wand out and for sure capable of rocking him. It goes both ways though because Wand can do the same to Chuck. It's going to come down to which fighter connects first. Should be interesting.

I think Chuck better be working on defending the clinch, he's never faced a Muay Thai fighter as good as Wandy, and I think Wandy is going to want to work his way inside and into the clinch. If Chuck hasn't properly prepared for that, then this could end like Silva/Franklin.