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12-28-2007, 10:08 AM
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WCM is retarted anyways they are Fedor's USA represenatives so that just speaks for itself.
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12-28-2007, 10:38 AM
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guys don't let your love for rampage cloud you judgement, while i agree 10 million seems like way too much, if they did have a contract and he violated the terms of it then he has to pay. on the other hand none of us know what was signed and what wasn't so we need to wait and see what happens with this
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12-28-2007, 11:21 AM
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Before I even opened the thread, I thought... what did Juanito do to get Rampage sued... and I guess I hit the nail on the head.
Juanito being dishonest.. yeah, no way of that.. that guy doesn't try to fill people's head with baseless bullshit...
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12-28-2007, 11:30 AM
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Juanito helped Rampage gain a world title, prepared Kongo to beat Crocop. Give the man some respect.
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12-28-2007, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dofking Juanito helped Rampage gain a world title, prepared Kongo to beat Crocop. Give the man some respect. |
Kongo looked no different against Cro Cop in any of his fights. And I am pretty sure in that same night Bisping (striker), who was trained by Juanito, got his ass handed him in the stand up game by Hamill (wrestler)
And I am sorry.. you don't get respect when you make baseless claims about fighters using steroids... he is obviously feeding Rampage's head with stupid shit (blaming the refs for his losses) as well.
And sure, he helped Rampage gain a title.... he helped Rampage beat a guy he already beat...
so, how much did he really do? Rampage has looked better, no doubt bout that.. I'll give Juanito that, and not a penny more.
I don't have to respect him as a person to acknowledge his ability as a coach. One has nothing to do with the other.
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12-28-2007, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramma Kongo looked no different against Cro Cop in any of his fights. And I am pretty sure in that same night Bisping (striker), who was trained by Juanito, got his ass handed him in the stand up game by Hamill (wrestler)
And I am sorry.. you don't get respect when you make baseless claims about fighters using steroids... he is obviously feeding Rampage's head with stupid shit (blaming the refs for his losses) as well.
And sure, he helped Rampage gain a title.... he helped Rampage beat a guy he already beat...
so, how much did he really do? Rampage has looked better, no doubt bout that.. I'll give Juanito that, and not a penny more.
I don't have to respect him as a person to acknowledge his ability as a coach. One has nothing to do with the other. | Whatever it takes to be on top. Thats why Juanito is a pimp. Old skool boxing cat, Juanito is a beast and a dawg.
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12-28-2007, 12:36 PM
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Has Forbes ever come out with a list of the riches fighters, mma to be more specifc because there be likely a 100 boxers before any mma fighter however this is something i have wondered for awhile and Rampage after his stint on TUF, will likely climb on a list.
Does anyone know how much Rampage makes a year or is worth?
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12-28-2007, 01:56 PM
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Jaunito is arrogant I didn't much care for him when he was Vitors Coach and I don't care for him today. Let's just see what arises form all this first though.
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12-28-2007, 06:08 PM
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I can't take any organization seriously who has the words "white chocolate" in their title. Sounds like an over-the-hill stripper on meth.
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| Quinton Jackson Being Sued For $10 million, Exclusive Details And Copy Of The Lawsuit Quote:
Quinton "Rampage" Jackson and his manager Juanito Ibarra are being sued by White Chocolate Management (WCM) and its president, Reed Wallace.
MMAFightline.com has obtained a copy of the lawsuit (click here to view) http://juanito-rampage.zoomshare.com...ge_Lawsuit.pdf in which Wallace is seeking $10,000,000 in damages stemming from allegations made by White Chocolate Management which state that Juanito Ibarra "bad mouthed" the popular management company and blocked deals brought to him by WCM with the intent of pursuing those deals at a later date without the involvement of WCM.
"Rampage has lost literally millions of dollars in deals that Juanito [Ibarra] just sent away because he didn't want someone else taking credit for those deals," Wallace explained. "Juanito tried to go back to those companies and do the deals on his own and it just didn't work out. I know of two of [these deals] that he's still working on right now and one of these deals is a deal whereby Juanito will only agree to allow the deal to happen with Rampage if the company in question agrees to do a deal with him personally as well."
Ibarra was unresponsive to inquiries seeking comment but has told multiple sources, including Sherdog.com, that WCM does not have a management contract with Rampage, instead stating that WCM has a "non-exclusive sponsorship" contract with the light heavyweight champion.
However, Wallace maintains that he signed a Personal Entertainment Management contract with Rampage and that Juanito and his lawyers were the ones that drafted the agreement.
"It's available by court/public record as an exhibit to the lawsuit… he needs to stop lying," said Wallace.
Wallace also said that he's received calls and emails from numerous parties that have themselves been burned by Ibarra.
"As a result of the lawsuit, we are getting many calls and emails from people that Juanito has burned or slandered and he uses Rampage as leverage to benefit himself. That's not the way to do business but then again, he's a cut man and trainer, not a manager. This will all come out in court."
Wallace has hired Attorney Robert Hantman who clarified WCM's position further in a prepared statement which states that WCM is willing to drop the suit provided that Ibarra and Quinton Jackson will, "let White Chocolate do its job without interference and honor his contract. The alternative is to go the distance. The decision is his."
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