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[Brutus]

Originally Posted by MONSONBYCHOKE

Not taking anything away from chuck but he is to one dimensional and all he has is his right. What else does he bring to the table? Not much IMO. The sport is slowly passing Chuck and if he does not add more depth to his game he is not going to win much at all anymore. IMO he has just the punchers luck to win this and also IMO that will not happen, Wandy is to smart of a fighter and to expirenced. Wandy in round 1

I think Chuck is much more diverse than a lot of people give him credit for. His gameplan for the past, mmmm, every fight is to KO his opponents but I dont think he's shown what he can do on the ground. He was a collegiate wrestler and his takedown D proves that he knows that game, IMO.

I agree that if Chuck doesnt mix it up a bit he'll be beat a lot in the future but i think he knows that too, despite of the recent "Chuck will stick to his game" articles. I'm waiting to see if he will show his ground game, i mean the only one to really hold him down was Randy in their first fight. Other than that he was able to escape/sprawl to avoid any gnp from wrestlers.

I dont agree w/ the "punchers luck" idea tho. you throw a punch to do damage, not to let your opponent know youre still in the ring. I just dont see any luck in winning by ko due to strikes. JMO tho.

Wand is one of my favs and i just think this is a bad style matchup. i've said it before, i hope that this fight ends in a draw.

dont hunt me down and kill me monsonbychoke......lol.

[Ubermensch]

Lets just say I am not really using MMA math here but I am comparing how certain fighters handled certain styles. When Rampage fought Wand both times when it was off the ground Rampage was hamburger and couldn't do anything with Chuck he was able to work with his game not Wands. I don't see Chuck being able to handle wands standup if he cant handle Rampages. Wands is far better than Rampages and it shows.

[Brutus]

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

Lets just say I am not really using MMA math here but I am comparing how certain fighters handled certain styles. When Rampage fought Wand both times when it was off the ground Rampage was hamburger and couldn't do anything with Chuck he was able to work with his game not Wands. I don't see Chuck being able to handle wands standup if he cant handle Rampages. Wands is far better than Rampages and it shows.

I dont know, i just have this feeling that Wands wide looping punches, although hes been training a ton of boxing, will be a negative for him in this fight. we'll see tho. i'm not taking anything away from either figher, someone has to win i guess.

[mauladala]

Originally Posted by MONSONBYCHOKE

Not taking anything away from chuck but he is to one dimensional and all he has is his right. What else does he bring to the table? Not much IMO. The sport is slowly passing Chuck and if he does not add more depth to his game he is not going to win much at all anymore. IMO he has just the punchers luck to win this and also IMO that will not happen, Wandy is to smart of a fighter and to expirenced. Wandy in round 1

I do not think for one second that Chuck thought he had either Rampage or Jardine in the bag as someone stated above. I think he took them as serious as any fight and after losing the first one to Rampage you mean to tell me you think he was going to under estimate his next opponent in Jardine as well. I do not think so chuck is not dumb. He lost because he did not have a better all around game plan or game in general.

I stated that, and I stand by it. You watch any of his interviews and he nearly stated as much. He said 1)Rampage wasn't used to the cage, 2)wasn't used to the rules of the UFC and 3) that he would knock him out in the first (and yes I know "What else is he supposed to say" rules apply here).

But he said all that BS in a manner that seemed as if the first fight was a fluke to him!!! Dude, he threw A HOOK TO THE BODY of an mma fighter with some wicked hands AND his trainer had been BEGGING him not to do just that. So he wasn't over-confident when he did that? All signs point to "Yes, he was."

And don't even tell me you couldn't see the "Jardine isn't worth my piss" look in his eyes during all the pre-fight interviews and hoopla. He thought that was a little escalator to ride right back to winning and contention. C'mon! I think Dana GAVE him Jardine FOR that reason. This is Dana's friend to the point they spend Christmas together!!! Dana wanted him to get a win and Jardine seemed tailor made since he liked to stand!! So YES, Chuck is that dumb SOMETIMES.

I do have a feeling though that he could really make a statement this fight and he wants the legacy that comes along with beating Wandy to add to his legend already. Pride's famous/legendary LHW versus the UFC famous/legendary LHW. This is a fucking COUP!!! So yeah, he seems different for this fight.

I cannot WAIT!

[notrightn0w]

Personally, I am rooting for Wand... but either way, this fight=WAR!

[jlruthven84]

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

Lets just say I am not really using MMA math here but I am comparing how certain fighters handled certain styles. When Rampage fought Wand both times when it was off the ground Rampage was hamburger and couldn't do anything with Chuck he was able to work with his game not Wands. I don't see Chuck being able to handle wands standup if he cant handle Rampages. Wands is far better than Rampages and it shows.

Its not just the quality of the standup that counts, though, its the style. Rampage is just a bad matchup for Chuck, as Chuck is to Wandy. Silva will likely come steamrolling right ahead and get countered.

[lottie-12]

Why chuck lost the belly? he always said that it wasn't going any where.
(remember tito called him a snowman?)
It was a part of his "signature" kinda like the mowhawk.

Oh well he looks great...... maybe even sexy.

WAR CHUCK

[Brutus]

Originally Posted by jlruthven84

Its not just the quality of the standup that counts, though, its the style. Rampage is just a bad matchup for Chuck, as Chuck is to Wandy. Silva will likely come steamrolling right ahead and get countered.

Agreed, as long as Chuck counters, he'll be fine. I really think Chuck will KO Wand but i know i will enjoy the fight either way.

[dbader08]

Originally Posted by MONSONBYCHOKE

Not taking anything away from chuck but he is to one dimensional and all he has is his right. What else does he bring to the table? Not much IMO. The sport is slowly passing Chuck and if he does not add more depth to his game he is not going to win much at all anymore. IMO he has just the punchers luck to win this and also IMO that will not happen, Wandy is to smart of a fighter and to expirenced. Wandy in round 1

I do not think for one second that Chuck thought he had either Rampage or Jardine in the bag as someone stated above. I think he took them as serious as any fight and after losing the first one to Rampage you mean to tell me you think he was going to under estimate his next opponent in Jardine as well. I do not think so chuck is not dumb. He lost because he did not have a better all around game plan or game in general.

To tell you the truth, Wandy and Chuck have been fighting for a long time, and wandy's style is the same it has always been, and so is chucks. But I guess since Chucks in his late 30's that means that the sport is passing him by?...I have to disagree with you. He looks totally focused and in shape. And if he does knock Wandy out it wont be out of luck, it will be because he was actually focused on this fight.

[Palma]

Originally Posted by MONSONBYCHOKE

Not taking anything away from chuck but he is to one dimensional and all he has is his right. What else does he bring to the table? Not much IMO. The sport is slowly passing Chuck and if he does not add more depth to his game he is not going to win much at all anymore. IMO he has just the punchers luck to win this and also IMO that will not happen, Wandy is to smart of a fighter and to expirenced. Wandy in round 1

I do not think for one second that Chuck thought he had either Rampage or Jardine in the bag as someone stated above. I think he took them as serious as any fight and after losing the first one to Rampage you mean to tell me you think he was going to under estimate his next opponent in Jardine as well. I do not think so chuck is not dumb. He lost because he did not have a better all around game plan or game in general.

He brings great (if not the best) takedown defense, which in MMA is a great thing if you are a striker with a great right hand.