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12-31-2007, 07:57 AM
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Chuck would fare much worse at HW...
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12-31-2007, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Palma The only reason Chuck should move to HW is because of the recent success by Couture in that division. I think Liddell should stay at LHW and people should just realize that Randy beat two fighters who were over rated to begin with and to stop pretending Randy is in the same class as Fedor. | I disagree. chuck would do good at heavyweight but he shouldn't move there becaues randy did good there. and also i feel randy IS in the same class as fedor. randy would fight anybody and would move around weight classes when needed. fedor on the other hand stays at his weight and fights cans. other than cro cop and nog. I hope choi knocks him out. I think it's pathetic that fedor has to respond to shit and say...not ALL good HWs arein UFC....i feel if you have to say it for peopel to belive it that it's mostly a liw.
sorry for bringing up overated fedor again!
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12-31-2007, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FFFRpickup I disagree. chuck would do good at heavyweight but he shouldn't move there becaues randy did good there. and also i feel randy IS in the same class as fedor. randy would fight anybody and would move around weight classes when needed. fedor on the other hand stays at his weight and fights cans. other than cro cop and nog. I hope choi knocks him out. I think it's pathetic that fedor has to respond to shit and say...not ALL good HWs arein UFC....i feel if you have to say it for peopel to belive it that it's mostly a liw.
sorry for bringing up overated fedor again! | Who is Chuck going to beat at HW? AA, Big Tim, Kongo GG??? I think those guys would destroy him. He may do ok against the smaller HW but all in all he would be better off staying at lhw..imo.
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12-31-2007, 09:01 AM
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I dont think Chuck would be as good at HW than he is at LHW. I dont think its time to start thinkin about changing weight classes after a victory over Wandy, lets be real here. He just beat one of the best LHW's on the planet, and everyone thinks its time for a move? If anything, he just proved he can bang with the best.
Plus, I feel that after he just beat the guy, who has 2 (t)ko's over the current LHW champ, that should help his chances in getting another rematch with Rampage down the line. After Forrest gets his title shot, I think Machida is next in line anyways, but after 1 or 2 more wins Chucks right there. Forrest is 3-2 in his last 5, only 2 wins in a row, against Hector Ramirez and obviously Shogun, the only one worth mentioning.
Not to mention you better believe Dana White will do anything in his power to get Chuck back to "champ" status as soon as possible.
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12-31-2007, 09:55 AM
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I think it would be suicde for Liddell to go to HW, he would go from the hardest hitting striker at LHW to having mediocre power at HW. Think about the guys at that wieght. Kongo and AA hit like friggin mack trucks, Liddell would get KTFO by those guys. Kongo has a great Chin and hits so hard that Liddell would not have a change. AA has a suspect chin but his power also makes up for it. GG would tear him apart also, Cro-Cop would murder him. Big Nog would make him look silly. And Syliva with that huge reach advanatge would just pick him apart all day. While the LHW has more talent and is deeper, the HWs would just murder most of the LHWs anyday of the week. Rampage said himself he would not want to fight HW because Kongo hits so hard in sparring he would not want to fight him in a real match.
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12-31-2007, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by scottsec Chuck will never be champ again | Maybe. If we didn't have to wait for the Rampage/Griffin fight, I think he would get it back this year. We will see. I know I am probably the only one, but I think that Griffin will take Rampage and that will open the door for Chuck to get the belt back. Call me stupid, but that is what I think.
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12-31-2007, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. MMA does anyone else agree that chuck should move to HW. It's going to be hard for him to get a title shot when there r so many contendors who r more worthy plus i doubt they're going to give him a shot at rampage again
right now after beating wand, he has some momentum and he should take that to the hw division. I"m not saying chuck is done in lhw but there r more deserving guys out there like forrest, machida, jardine and thiago... who knows and maybe shogun if he gets a couple wins or even one win
CHUCK TO HW!! | ummmm.... no
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12-31-2007, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Crùsh I really don't understand why people think fighters should just drop down to a weight class or move up just because the competition is fierce in their current division. If I ever thought like that, I would hang up the gloves, just quit fighting period. It takes a true lack of self confidence to do that, which is a big thing in a sport like this. Chuck is still a powerful force in his division and I don't think he should go anywhere, especially just because his opponents are tough. | Nice post, the fact is these fighters want to be the best, and to be the best you have to beat the best. I think it would be chicken shit for a fighter to run to a different division, because the competition is too tough for him in his current division.
The only justification IMO to move to a different weight class is to ensur eyou are fighting guys your own size (i.e. Joe Stevenson, Diego Sanchez, BL Penn, Sean Sherk, Hendo, etc...) or to test yourself in a heavier divsion (i.e. Hendo, Penn, etc..).
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12-31-2007, 11:30 AM
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chuck would get beat up badly at hw...
if chuck moved up to hw and fought randy again, i honestly think randy would straight whoop his ass...chuck is best suited for lhw...moving up to hw would be disastrous for his career because he would get beat the fuck up
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12-31-2007, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Masscore I think it would be suicde for Liddell to go to HW, he would go from the hardest hitting striker at LHW to having mediocre power at HW. | Uhhh negative, Chuck definately has the power to KO AA, Vera, Big Nog and he could definately put big Timmaahhh in a world of hurt, just to mention a few. Just cause he's older doesnt mean he is less powerful. If he still has a right hand on the end of his right arm, he's still dangerous IMO.
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