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[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by dbader08

Rounds 1 and 3 were clearly chucks and 2 was very close...Liddell was lighting wandy up at the end of round 2.

Chuck beat Wandy's ass and anyone who thinks Wandy won is bias.

This fight was nowhere near a draw. Chuck beat the living fuck out of Wandy...I was amazed that wandy was able to stay standing though, that dude has an iron fucking chin.

You and the man above you are retarded.

How was round 2 close? Wanderlei landed a lot more punches than chuck (much more power shots as well) and score 2 knockdowns.

Wanderlei threw more punches, landed a higher percentage, landed more power shots and scored 2 KNOCKDOWNS.

Chuck scored a takedown and landed a left hok that opened a cut. You don't get points for a cut and a knockdown is worth far omre than a takedown.

Back to school for you.

Anyone who thinkgs Wandy won is bias"ed" says the man with the iceman sig.

I C.

The way the fight played out, I knew homefield advantage would be a factor, it was a very close fight (not 30-27). Kinda like that "catch" by Gaffney against the Ravens, when people want you to win, you will get the calls the majority of the time.

[strife]

I 100% agree with this. There was NO FUCKING WAY it was 30-27 in favor of Chuck. Like dagreat said Round 2 was clearly Wand's and round 3 was clearly Chuck's. Round 1 could of went either way, and I'm not going to say it was a screw job but it was one of the most biased decisions I think the UFC has had in a long long time. 3 bullshit takedowns don't score points when you do nothing with them.

[NixHex]

Chuck did more damage with punches in Round 1 than you guys are admitting too though. And landed a few leg kicks, a spinning back fist.

[pa99ortiz]

First off, Rogan was probably higher than a kite off the refer. But I did notice some bias statements in Chucks favor. I guess he really likes Chuck, but you can't say those kind of statements when commenting for the UFC.

[Steel]

Originally Posted by mbassy

i think wanderlei lost, but i noticed something strange on the commentating as well....seemed like goldberg was almost getting pissed at one point when rogan said 'chuck with a good right' (which was a miss) goldberg replied '...AND silva with a good left!' with an interesting tone of voice

rogan also said after the fight moving on to the next fight that GSP trained for the possibility that SERRA would pull out...WTF

Yeah, I noticed that. Goldy really detracts and serves only to hype every word Rogan says or what he's instructed to do beforehand.

[neonatural45]

29-28 for chuck

I couldn't beleive it when Wandy scored a knockdown and all I could hear was "Chuck landed a big right hand then slipped" I was like WTF is this? I may have to start watching IFL just for Bas's commentary.


But I was happy at the end of the fight, becuase:

1. It was a great fight and they both looked like their old selves

and

2. Chuck was actually smart in a fight beleive it or not, he knew that Wandy would pore it on strong in the last couple seconds of round three so he used his world-class wrestling for the first time since Tito. If he can only do that more often it could be an Ice Age all over again. People better beleive that Chuck can LnP anyone in that division

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by NixHex

Chuck did more damage with punches in Round 1 than you guys are admitting too though. And landed a few leg kicks, a spinning back fist.

The spinning backfirst was in round 3, there is no debate about that, Chuck clearly won round 3. Just as Wanderlei clearly won round 2 (though Chuck fans still see it as "close", as did the apparent Wanderlei fan who lost money, yeah right, he's a closet case Chuck fan if you ask me).

Round 1 was very close. Chuck came out the agressor and controlled the first few minutes of hte pace of the fight but neither were landing much, Chuck landed an inside leg kick, Wanderlei landed 2-3 Muay Thai leg kicks and a few inside leg kicks (inside leg kciks are less damaging because you throw them with your lead leg so they generate a lot less power), Chuck threw a high kick that was blocked but did land a really nice 1-2 combo. Wanderlei controlled the pace the 2nd half of the round.

They both had their moments in round 1, I have watched round 1 4 times now, I'm still on the fences, I can see it going either way but when a fight is left in the hands of the judges in MMA, homefield advantage typically plays a factor and clearly that was the case last night with the scoring of 2 of the 3 judges (initially I thought it was only 1 judge but came to find out this morning that oit was 2 of the 3 who scored it 30-27).

I'm not dissapointed with the fight, nor the decision, but it should've been a split decision or a 29-28 at best (it would not have made a difference in the outcome of the fihgt but is just pretty disturning when you think about it, that a preofessional sport as mainstream as MMA, in the premier organization the UFC, could have jusding this poor).

For me, it's up there with the Basketball ref betting on games, it just has no place in the sport. It just tarnishes the integrity of the sport because it's always inthe back of your mind, "will the judges score the fight correctly or will they score it as they see it with biased eyes".

[foundstarr]

I love the arrogance displayed here sometimes... Everyone thinking they'd do a better job then the professionals they watch. Of course Joe hyped the UFC side of the fight hes a fan first just like Dana has said time and time again about himself. Thats how they run the UFC I don't get why noone else sees it..

[NixHex]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

The spinning backfirst was in round 3, there is no debate about that, Chuck clearly won round 3. Just as Wanderlei clearly won round 2 (though Chuck fans still see it as "close", as did the apparent Wanderlei fan who lost money, yeah right, he's a closet case Chuck fan if you ask me).

Round 1 was very close. Chuck came out the agressor and controlled the first few minutes of hte pace of the fight but neither were landing much, Chuck landed an inside leg kick, Wanderlei landed 2-3 Muay Thai leg kicks and a few inside leg kicks (inside leg kciks are less damaging because you throw them with your lead leg so they generate a lot less power), Chuck threw a high kick that was blocked but did land a really nice 1-2 combo. Wanderlei controlled the pace the 2nd half of the round.

They both had their moments in round 1, I have watched round 1 4 times now, I'm still on the fences, I can see it going either way but when a fight is left in the hands of the judges in MMA, homefield advantage typically plays a factor and clearly that was the case last night with the scoring of 2 of the 3 judges (initially I thought it was only 1 judge but came to find out this morning that oit was 2 of the 3 who scored it 30-27).

I'm not dissapointed with the fight, nor the decision, but it should've been a split decision or a 29-28 at best (it would not have made a difference in the outcome of the fihgt but is just pretty disturning when you think about it, that a preofessional sport as mainstream as MMA, in the premier organization the UFC, could have jusding this poor).

For me, it's up there with the Basketball ref betting on games, it just has no place in the sport. It just tarnishes the integrity of the sport because it's always inthe back of your mind, "will the judges score the fight correctly or will they score it as they see it with biased eyes".

Yeah i'm not sure how people see Round 2 for Chuck, but of the 4 guys I was watching it with only 1 agreed with me that Wanderlei won Round 2... i'm not sure how people see fights so differently. Round 3 was obviously Chuck, and I laughed when Chuck threw that spinning backfist, but I bet it didn't feel good.

I agree with everything else, but I think Chuck did more damage & landed more & controlled more in the 1st Round... but how 2 of the judges scored it 30-27 is beyond me. They should've took a hint from Chuck, he went for the takedown at the end of the round because Wanderlei was peppering him... Chuck lands a scraping elbow that rips Wand's eye open & takes him down, every other exchange in the round went to Wanderlei.

29-28 for Chuck UD I think would have been the perfect score.

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by The Sundance Kid

I thought Chuck won all 3 rounds.

And that's sad. Less time moderating, more time watching MMA and anaylizing the fights. :headscratch: