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[jrube]

Originally Posted by Warchief

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I think Tim thinks he walks on water. To make a rash judgment about someone with the athletic ability of Lesnar, then say the NSAC thinks that Mir wasn't good enough to fight him... Man this guy gets one win against an uproven HW after being man handled by randy, and he suddenly thinks he is the shit in the HW division.

Do I think Mir can submit Lesnar? Absolutley, but honestly, when Mir is at the top of his game, there isn't anyone in the UFC HW division he can't beat.

I hope there is a match between Lesnar and Sylvia sometime this year... I would LOVE to see Lesnar hit Sylvia with a big slam and GnP his goody ass out!

[WadoKai]

Tim Sylvia shouldn't call anyone a baby. He cried because Jens Pulver didn't like him.

[mulefloyd]

Vera had 11 months off between the Mir and Sylvia fights. I thought Mir looked much better against Vera than Christenson and Cruz. He just got caught. Maybe Vera wasn't ready for Tim or maybe it was rust. Nog sure didn't look that good against Herring but people don't write him off because of his past record and it was his 1st UFC fight. I'm a huge Vera fan who was very disappointed with the Sylvia loss but think he still has it and Tim is still underrated cuz he's not likable.

Don't think Tim will try to GnP Nog. Not his style. Don't think Nog can take him down. To sub him he'll have to either get a lightning fast one or work on his wrestling. I think Tim will just stand up if it does go to the ground. Think he has pretty good wrestling and his sub d has looked better. Plus he's just so damn big. I would love to see Nog win and will root for him but wouldn't bet a dime on it.

[WadoKai]

Originally Posted by mulefloyd

Vera had 11 months off between the Mir and Sylvia fights. I thought Mir looked much better against Vera than Christenson and Cruz. He just got caught. Maybe Vera wasn't ready for Tim or maybe it was rust. Nog sure didn't look that good against Herring but people don't write him off because of his past record and it was his 1st UFC fight. I'm a huge Vera fan who was very disappointed with the Sylvia loss but think he still has it and Tim is still underrated cuz he's not likable.

Don't think Tim will try to GnP Nog. Not his style. Don't think Nog can take him down. To sub him he'll have to either get a lightning fast one or work on his wrestling. I think Tim will just stand up if it does go to the ground. Think he has pretty good wrestling and his sub d has looked better. Plus he's just so damn big. I would love to see Nog win and will root for him but wouldn't bet a dime on it.

Agreed, and Tim looked a little better and aggressive when he was out against Vera than he had in his past title defenses. I'd also bank on Tim winning over Nog, probably by a 5 round boring decision though.

[scottsec]

Originally Posted by mulefloyd

Vera had 11 months off between the Mir and Sylvia fights. I thought Mir looked much better against Vera than Christenson and Cruz. He just got caught. Maybe Vera wasn't ready for Tim or maybe it was rust. Nog sure didn't look that good against Herring but people don't write him off because of his past record and it was his 1st UFC fight. I'm a huge Vera fan who was very disappointed with the Sylvia loss but think he still has it and Tim is still underrated cuz he's not likable.

Don't think Tim will try to GnP Nog. Not his style. Don't think Nog can take him down. To sub him he'll have to either get a lightning fast one or work on his wrestling. I think Tim will just stand up if it does go to the ground. Think he has pretty good wrestling and his sub d has looked better. Plus he's just so damn big. I would love to see Nog win and will root for him but wouldn't bet a dime on it.

The Stainiac would beat Vera again...like him or not hes no joke...

[neonatural45]

Thats no lie about NSAC not letting him and Mir fight, but I think he mixed his dates up for the fight. He was supposed to fight Vera instead of Randy at UFC 68 and I think he was supposed to fight Mir after that, at UFC 74 or something. Anyways I can't blame the NSAC for not sanctioning it, Mir had just lost to a guy with a record of 1-0.


as for the constant Timmy hate it has more to do with how awkward he is (and the fact that he used) then how boring his fights have been lately

[baba]

Tim is just so..... Tim. I can't even quantify it anymore. Socially akward, abrasive, dimwitted, deep-rooted psycholigical trauma .... he's the full monty.

His biggest weakness seems to be against good wrestlers who can take him down, so maybe a Tim/Brock match would be the best way to settle this.

I'm still pulling for Mir, but hopefully after Nog drops Timmy, then we can see Sylvia/Lesnar in Late August or early September.

[Legend]

Originally Posted by jrube

I think Tim thinks he walks on water. To make a rash judgment about someone with the athletic ability of Lesnar, then say the NSAC thinks that Mir wasn't good enough to fight him... Man this guy gets one win against an uproven HW after being man handled by randy, and he suddenly thinks he is the shit in the HW division.

Do I think Mir can submit Lesnar? Absolutley, but honestly, when Mir is at the top of his game, there isn't anyone in the UFC HW division he can't beat.

I hope there is a match between Lesnar and Sylvia sometime this year... I would LOVE to see Lesnar hit Sylvia with a big slam and GnP his goody ass out!

I'm not sure if he is making a rash judgment about Lesnar. Lesnar did train out with MFS for a little while. Not sure exactly how long but I'm sure it was not then a few days so it's not like Tim just trained with Brock on a bad day.

Mir at that point had looked like complete shit in his first two return appearances against less then top shelf MMA talent (I know Cruz has world class BJJ but this is MMA) and then was beaten pretty quickly by a legitimate contender in Vera. So the NSAC was right not to let Mir fight against a fighter the caliber of Tim Sylvia. So Sylvia is completely right about that he just takes too much pride in that fact bc Mir snapped him arm in two.

[jlruthven84]

I'm doing my best to reserve judgment on Lesnar till I see him fight Mir. If Mir wins, its probably going to be by an armbar from the bottom; if Lesnar wins, he's going to use his strength to avoid subs and his wrestling to control Mir on the ground and pull out a decision.

I won't trash talk either of these guys till after 81. Tim, on the other hand, is a different story, and I hope Big Nog breaks his arm off and sells it to Hong Man Choi as a back scratcher.

[Zenshotokai]

Originally Posted by Chrispytoal

just because brock was a pro wrestler doesnt mean he wont cut it in mma.

have any of you guys seen some of the feats of strength that brock has performed over the years????

i hope he annihilates mir then gets the chance to shut sylvia up, tim will never have met anyone in the octagon with anywhere near the power that lesnar posesses.

give it a couple of years and people will be screaming from the rooftops to see Brock vs Fedor and this time Dana will deliver because he has got the future of the sport tied down to UFC.

Strength and punching power do not mean the same thing. There are lots of guys who are "strong" but can't punch with power because the muscles that they have built up are not for punching. :headscratch: