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Old 01-02-2008, 07:01 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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I nominate Smoogy.

I'd nominate myself, but rankings that only go to 10 are for pussies, and mine only go to ten.

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lol you know I was just joshing you dude.


Doing rankings by committee will invariably create a UFC bias and could lead to some guys being way overranked, but judging by all the flak Howie is getting for rankings that are 80 percent accurate (and way better than the outdated shit MMAWeekly et al post) it would be worth a try just to let people put their money where their mouth is.

P.S. New Top 20s before the end of the week
Well, I did just get an email for an all-natural supplement that can increase my rankings by 3-4 places in just six weeks. So maybe I won't have to be ashamed of them anymore, and my wife will stop posting at Sherdog...



I'll leave rankings to people who are a) very good at them; or b) very excited about arguing over them. I generally agree with the bulk of yours anyway.

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Old 01-02-2008, 07:06 PM   #22 (permalink)
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id love to help make the rankings. i love rankings.
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I'd like to be in on it.

By the way, where the fuck is Evan Tanner on the MW list? That's bullshit he's not in there.

I will say, it looks like Hughes should drop to 6 or 7 after his fight and GSP should be #1 since Serra has been out for a while. Also, Fitch should be 3 or 4.

Jardine should be above Forrest but not that high, I don't like the guy but I will admit Machida is pretty good, although I have always said Soko is overrated, he shouldn't even be in the top ten.

IMO Fedor should drop to 4 on principle alone, although I guess Randy should drop also since he will be inactive for a long time.
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Ill just do p4p ratings, I don't feel like doing all the weight classes.

10-Houston...............................(kidding...l ol...Rich Franklin-people forget that he's really good)
9-Randy
8-Dan Henderson
7-Jon Fitch
6-Big Nog
5-BJ
4-GSP
2-Rampage
2-A. Silva 1-Fedor

Also some people say Fedor shouldnt be on the P4P list because he doesnt fight top comp. anymore, but then put BJ on their list, which makes no sense considering he's beaten 1 Lw in the past 4 years and is 2-3 in his last 5 fights (although controversal losses, they are still losses). But I believe that Fedor does belong on the list considering he beat every HW that pride put in front of him, it's not his fault pride fell through and he didnt like the UFC

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Franklin is a good fighter but way too many people you can put ahead of him p4p. He hasn't beat anybody worth a damn since he lost the belt except Okami and I think he gets too much credit
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He has beaten everybody that he's fought since losing to A. Silva (except Silva again lol). Anderson just makes him look bad...Anderson makes everybody look bad.
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Where is Akiyama on the MW list? He's coming off of a loss (a nasty one) but he caved in Kang's face in his fight prior?

And I think Neo's FW list is much more accurate IMO.
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I'll do it. I think my ranking are the most accurate out of anybody and I don't find it hard to do at all. I've never had an argument about my rankings either.
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lol...go ahead and hate. i like em. LHW is kinda ugly but the way that division is is pretty ugly.

im open to suggestions for doing a steady rankings system and updating every couple weeks if anyone has thoughts
I'd love to be on the rankings, I think mine are very solid and I have reasons behind all of them. I'll do a Top 20 too w/ Smoogy & others if it were for the site.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE your interviews Howie (some of the best of seen anywhere online), but that Top 10 makes me cringe lol.
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JZ is not top p4p.

How does Hughes go from being 3, losing to someone ranked above him down that low.

JZ isn't 2 in the world at lw either.

I know people don't like Faber but he is number 1 at fw, and until Jens beats him he stays that way.


How is Edgar over Daddy.

Lindland is very good but hasn't fought anyone at mw in a long ass time thats worth a damn.

I feel Lhw should be Rampage, Lyoto, Rua, Hendo, Chuck Forrest Jardine

Faber has beaten one top 10 featherweight and he got his ass kicked for the majority of the fight, that is like saying Jason Lambert should be #1 lightheavyweight becuase he beat Babalu, pretty retarted. Compared to the guys that Tamura or Lion Takeshi have beaten Faber hasn't done anything yet, if he beats Jens and Takaya in impressive fashion then he will be #1 featherweight.

In the last year the only thing hughes did that is worth anything was lay on Chris Lytle for three rounds, considering that he didn't do ANYTHING to GSP #7 is a fair place for him.

Why can't JZ be #2 at lightweight? who is better to take his place? Aoki didn't beat a top 10 lightweight this year and Gomi's last fight was a loss. Ishida is coming off a huge win but that is his only fight since losing to Gomi so he can't be #2.

Edgar is over Daddy becuase he has better wins and is undefeated. Im a fan of Daddy but his best win is over Pelligrino.

JZ isn't #2 in his weight class but Lyoto is?



and Id be game for a top 20 with some other posters
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