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09-08-2006, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rockernhb They need to set him up against Matt Hamill and get it over with. I think Bisping has a big advantage, but everyone wanted to see it happen and it should. If not, I'd still like to see him fight anybody. | not yet !!! give matt 1 year or so that guy will be unstoppable when tito gets done training him on sub defence and ground and pound with elbows he does need to stand with guys i heard noone can stop the takedown on matt in camp he is that good of a wrestler and very strong , i think you hype those two up win 3-4 fights then let them go!!!, bisping said on tuf it would be matt and him in the final,before matt was hurt , matt the hammer hamil by tko due to a cut by elbows ( in 1 - 2 years from now )
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09-08-2006, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBonger LOL. Thats what i get for starting to drink at lunch. my bad. But still i dont see Chuck and Bisping being in the same sentence for a year or two atleast. | I do, when your LHW division consists of only 2 worthy strikers, regardless of the margin of skill. It just further exposes the UFC's lack of striker depth at LHW. I hope they get some good one's soon and I really wish Dana White hated Chuck just for the sake of getting us some good LHW title matches as he could've gone after Rampage, Lyoto and/or Melvin Manhoef (Still could) and those would all be worth our $40.00 PPV buy.
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09-08-2006, 03:28 PM
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i wish rampage came to the ufc.
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09-08-2006, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ortiz#1 not yet !!! give matt 1 year or so that guy will be unstoppable when tito gets done training him on sub defence and ground and pound with elbows he does need to stand with guys i heard noone can stop the takedown on matt in camp he is that good of a wrestler and very strong , i think you hype those two up win 3-4 fights then let them go!!!, bisping said on tuf it would be matt and him in the final,before matt was hurt , matt the hammer hamil by tko due to a cut by elbows ( in 1 - 2 years from now ) | I agree with the wrestling and the sub defense (will certainly take longer than 1 year for the sub defense, his wrestling is already an A-game) but his striking is pretty poor, when your striking consists of "dirty boxing" you are going to be in trouble against the likes of Bisping.
Team Punishment really needs more striking to be introduced to their camp.
Like someone else said maybe with the addition of Melvin he will teach them how to strike and they will bring in more striking coaches to further his striking skills (and all of theirs as they need it, Melvin is good already but everyone can improve).
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09-08-2006, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LethalStriker He is fighting on the TUF 4 Finale card, I figured it would be on the UFC 65 card instead but still good stuff. He is rumored to be fighting Marvin Eastman or Vernon White, they both fight each later this month and winner gets to fight Bisping. | What organization is that fight gona be under?
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09-08-2006, 05:01 PM
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alot of people have only seen marvin eastman getting his eyebrow ripped off by vitor belfort or knocked out by travis lutter or whatever his name his but he has a win over rampage..id be a good fight for bisping if he fought him or veron white..as for matt hamil..i like the guy but he leaves his hands down and his chin out way to much and bisping would test his chin and win by ko
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09-08-2006, 05:08 PM
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a win over Rampage doesnt mean crap that was Quintons 2nd fight in MMA in an organization that none of us can even name without looking
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09-08-2006, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai a win over Rampage doesnt mean crap that was Quintons 2nd fight in MMA in an organization that none of us can even name without looking | It was Rampages 3rd professional fight and only Eastman's 1st fight proffesional fight and it happned at King of the Cage an orginization that almost all mma fans recognize.
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09-08-2006, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by killerinstinct It was Rampages 3rd professional fight and only Eastman's 1st fight proffesional fight and it happned at King of the Cage an orginization that almost all mma fans recognize. | was it KOTC? damn still.. 3rd fight, 2nd fight not a big difference your still on ur way up at that point
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09-08-2006, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai was it KOTC? damn still.. 3rd fight, 2nd fight not a big difference your still on ur way up at that point | Rampage was on his way up ,but so was Eastman.Rampage actually had more experience than Eastman ,so the whole 'he was inexperienced when he lost' argument doesn't really apply in this situation.I think Rampage would win the rematch though.
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