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Old 01-06-2008, 12:08 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Penn will not lose to Sherk.

Penn imo will come into the Sherk fight the best shape of his life. If he comes in to the Daddy fight the best ever you better believe he will be that much better against Sherk.

Penn will not allow him self to lose to Sherk.

Penn vs Sherk will go just like GSP vs Sherk but i think Penn will end it faster because he hates Sherk.

Sherk is not going to be able to take Penn down, and Penn will tag him all day long, plus you think Franca landed some good knees wait till Penn times his shots and Sherk will be scared to shoot.

Penn will dominated Sherk.

Also i do not see GSP beating Penn in a rematch.

Penn has everything in the world to motivated him for a rematch with GSP and a fight with Sherk.

Penn wants to show everyone in the world that he was robbed against GSP in the first fight and will train very hard an will train to finish GSP so there is no doubt who is better.

Penn also wants to show the world that Sherk is just a roid junkie who should have never been champion.
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i agree that Penn will not lose to Sherk^, but let him go through Stevenson first and see his performance.
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i agree that Penn will not lose to Sherk^, but let him go through Stevenson first and see his performance.
If Penn underestimates Joe, i believe he will lose.

Joe is not the best fighter in the world but he is not a can or a bum. The guy is strong, good wrestling, has good grappling, and his stand up is improving.
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No way Penn is most dangerous at 170. Sure Penn and GSP had a great matchup that could have been called the other way but I personally think the new GSP is considerably better than the one that fought Penn. I said it before but nobody can really question the result of their first fight.

Round 1 - Penn wins this one easy.
Round 2 - GSP's round, not as dominant as Penn was in round 1 but still his round.
Round 3- GSP just barely gets this round. It's really really close but I think he takes it due to the takedowns.

If you look at the fight as whole I think Penn does the most damage and wins the fight if it were viewed as one continuous event. The round system however gives it to GSP.
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The new GSP? He's the same GSP in my opinion. He fights the same way he always did... he dominated hughes in fight 2 and then he did it in 3 and everybody seemed shocked and i don't know why because he already beat the crap out of him once. The new GSP came after hughes gsp 1... not 3. The only reason he lost to serra was because he got lazy and treated serra like serra wasn't gonna come to try and beat him.
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NO WAY, that is saying you think Stevenson is better than Sherk. I agree a focused Penn is very very hard to beat at 155 or 170, but there are two people, one in each weight class that I think can beat Penn at the top of his game, and that is GSP (Again) and Sherk. Just my opinion.
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I agree totally.He is great,but could be a whole lot better if he commited himself to training harder.He has said himself that he is in the fight game because it gives him more freedom to bum around than having a full time job/career.His cardio is his biggest enemy,and he will need cardio with Sherk.
He will get by Joe Daddy,but I think Sherk will outwork and gas Penn for the win.I highly doubt he will submit Sherk,and as we know Sherk has a granite chin.
Alot of people think BJ is some sort of a submission master,but out of sixteen fights he only has four subs.
If you went for Gogos all fight would you win by sub every time? plus judging BJ's submission skills by his percentagle is inaccurate.. BJ is not one dimensional.. he can finish by knockout or submission.

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The knees he took to the face from Hermes Franca should have proved that without a doubt.
that his chin is average? he got rocked by those knees.. he didnt just eat them and keep going.. they dropped him.
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I love BJ as a fighter, I was shockedto see how different he looked when the 3rd round started of the hughes fight at UFC 63, it was like night and day, this guy could tool matt hughes all day long.
I believe BJ lost The St Pierre fight, simply because i think in his mind the fight was over after the 1st round, St Pierre outhustler and outworked him in rounds 2 & 3, that being said, I think BJ takes a rematch if they have 1
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I've been wanting to see what a dedicated BJ Penn could do in this sport. I hope we get to see it. If BJ starts halfassing his training and preparation his natural fighting ability and mediocre gas tank won't carry him as far as it did before in todays MMA. If he doesn't continue to take it seriously I will resign my position of being a BJ Penn fan forever. If BJ trains and preps the way he should and stays focused, no one at 155 or 170lbs can beat him IMO, I hope we get to find out if I'm right.
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I keep seeing "one of the most" "might be one of the most". Straight up, BJ Penn is THE most gifted fighter in MMA. Fucking guy won Mundials, that speaks for itself. His training is now on the level its supposed to be. You will see Penn in the best shape of his life for the stevenson fight. You will see him dominate, and you will see him win.
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No way Penn is most dangerous at 170. Sure Penn and GSP had a great matchup that could have been called the other way but I personally think the new GSP is considerably better than the one that fought Penn. I said it before but nobody can really question the result of their first fight.

Round 1 - Penn wins this one easy.
Round 2 - GSP's round, not as dominant as Penn was in round 1 but still his round.
Round 3- GSP just barely gets this round. It's really really close but I think he takes it due to the takedowns.

If you look at the fight as whole I think Penn does the most damage and wins the fight if it were viewed as one continuous event. The round system however gives it to GSP.
You can certainly question the results of that fight and here it is.

In the thir round, how does GSP take the fight with only 2 take downs when Penn himself took GSP down once, controlled GSP from gaurd the two times GSP took him down, and totally controlled the stand up in the third?
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