Originally Posted by killerinstinct
There's ways to cheat a polygraph test as well though and polygraphs tests aren't always acurate.
Very good point. They are, however, more reliable than the current tests (that have somewhere between little and no value).
You are right we can't just be banning etc based soley on the test, so how about this:
drug tests as normal (but at a higher frequency than currently especially during training time). Polygraph once a year. All polygraph faliures (and their entire mma team) are tested much more often during the next year. I say the whole team should be tested more because elite fighters don't source their juice themselves (most 'street' steroids are not labled accurately and would lead to undesired results and test faliures due to unpredictable half-lives).
Originally Posted by Storm442
Hitting people in the pocketbook is the only thing that most people understand.
Whilst I agree that fines must be higher, I think the ban time is far more of a deterrent. When you consider that most top fighters wouldn't have acheived their high earnings level without roids, you see that a fine of any size will still keep the risk/reward calculation favouring the juice for pro fighters. A ban of 4 years may have more of an effect (although people will still do it as we see in other sports).
Originally Posted by ronin
Again another silly thread who cares if a fighter is on steroids.
Steroids won't help you learn MMA skills its only good for strength maybe stamina.
You can have all the Hulk Hogan roids in the world that won't make you a better fighter.
*sigh* I'm not bothering with this again, I'll just cut and paste one of my previous posts to alleviate your ignorance - no thanks required:
"Yes it does [make a better fighter] by allowing far more training time and at a higher intensity, resulting in a higher skill level and better conditioning. More skill and better conditioning (plus the additional physical benefits) = better fighter."
Originally Posted by ronin
This is not Baseball... WHO CARES.....
I can tell from this that either:
a) you are an mma practicioner that juices, or...
b) you don't train mma.
I wonder which one it is...
First off, we should care more about it in mma than baseball because in baseball you are hitting a ball, where as in mma you are hitting another man's face. In a nutshell, the steroids in mma not only allow you to win more, but also put both fighters lives at a greater degree of risk. If you don't care about that then you do not care about mma.
Another thing - this is not just an issue at the top level of the sport. Shit filters down to the grass roots. You get 16 year old amateurs juicing themselves to the gills when they haven't even finished growing yet (very bad for the body's adolescent hormonal and structural systems). You get a situation where if you want to climb the rankings and *maybe* get to a professional level, you must risk your life (and life savings) using drugs.
Of course none of that stuff effects keyboard warriors like yourself, but you would spare a thought for the fighters' predicament if you were a real fan.