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[koolaidx]

Originally Posted by CESSPOOL

Dana reminds me of Don.

top 15 Pay per view buys last year. I can't say that either are really on a decline. They each have their fan base. I think both will live and bitch non-stop about the other. It is probably good for both to have the rivalry.

1. Boxing: Oscar De La Hoya vs. Floyd Mayweather, May 5: 2,400,000
• 2. Boxing: Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton, Dec. 8: 850,000
• 3. WWE: Wrestlemania, April 1: 760,000
• 4. UFC: Chuck Liddell vs. Quinton Jackson, May 26: 675,000
• 5. UFC: Tim Sylvia vs. Randy Couture, March 3: 540,000
• 6. UFC: Couture vs. Gabriel Gonzaga, Aug. 24: 520,000
• 7. UFC: Liddell vs. Keith Jardine, Sept. 22: 475,000
• 8. UFC: Tito Ortiz vs. Rashad Evans, July 7: 425,000
• 9. UFC: Anderson Silva vs. Travis Lutter, Feb. 2: 400,000
• 10. UFC: Georges St. Pierre vs. Matt Serra, April 7: 400,000
• 11. Boxing: Manny Pacquiao vs. Marco Antonio Barrera, Oct. 6: 350,000
• 12. WWE: SummerSlam, Aug. 26: 344,000
• 13. Boxing: Miguel Cotto vs. Shane Mosley, Nov. 10: 340,000
• 14. UFC: Anderson Silva vs. Rich Franklin, Oct. 20: 325,000
• 15. WWE: Royal Rumble, Jan. 28: 314,000

info from:
The business of MMA in 2008 - MMA - Yahoo! Sports

So if Mayweather stops boxing where does that leave the boxing world. Ohh right Mayweather is looking into MMA, while I don't think it will ever happen could you guys imagine the buys for an MMA event featuring Mayweather?

[marekny144]

Originally Posted by lovebuzzkurt

I agree that the youth demographic is up for grabs in the US but some people will not be AS easily swayed into MMA, because they grew up watching boxing. Its not because differnt color skin means different people its just boxing is still very much a part of almost all Mexican American households, on spanish TV fri night means boxing on. I have personally seen the resistance like i said from 21 yr olds because they grew up watching something different and didnt understand all the aspects. Anyway
though i know you were not bashing boxing, im just tired of people in general who do and i wanted to point out that MMA's status as a mainstay sport is not a done deal yet and that boxing is not and never will be dead. People get over it both sports can co-exist.

I have to disagree with you on a few points. First of all, nobody really grew up with MMA since the sport itself is still in its nascent, albeit quite robust, stage. So the current fan base, even if predominantly white, did not grow up with the sport to justify the interest, as you seem to claim. I myself grew up in Eastern Europe and would eat up any news or snapshots of professional boxing. When I came to the US in my late teens I religiously followed boxing and watched PPVs, until the UFC came along. I, as many other people here, just think MMA is much more entertaining to watch and the overall skills those athletes possess nowadays are simply unmatched by any other fighting disciplines, including boxing.

Your analogy of introducing MMA to Mexico to introducing soccer to an average American is incorrect, IMO. MMA after all is a fighting sport and probably more than 50% of it is boxing. Soccer is an entirely different discipline from anything Americans were used to, plus it was already crowned as the most popular sport in the world and superior to anything else Americans grew up with. Americans don't like to hear such things, as the history teaches us. Your point about the resistance from Mexicans or other Hispanics to MMA is well taken though--Mexico and other Latin American countries have historically produced many great boxers so there is certainly heritage there and understandable following. So conversely, the alleged reluctance to accept the sport might be a function of lack of 1st generation Hispanic fighters in MMA perhaps. But MMA is certainly not a white man's sport. As it matures and grows, it will attract a wider fan base, especially if the purses offered improve to at least provide incentives for fighters to enter the sport and make a living out of it. This does not happen overnight.

[LoonY ToonZ]

don king is a piece of trash and cares about nothing except his own pockets, with that said he is the first person to get any athlete a million dollar deal. and if you really wanna compare the two sports everyone should take a look at what jones and trinidad will make tonight compared to what stevenson and penn will make. Once you do that youll see that ufc is no different and imo can be considered on the same mentality as don king.

Also, if you dont think UFC and dana white are copying the MANY methods of bullshit that don king does then you are all blind. At least don gets his fighters paid.

neither sport is on any decline, boxing has been around for over 100 years, how mma fans disrespect boxing for any reason is beyond me.

[CESSPOOL]

Originally Posted by koolaidx

So if Mayweather stops boxing where does that leave the boxing world. Ohh right Mayweather is looking into MMA, while I don't think it will ever happen could you guys imagine the buys for an MMA event featuring Mayweather?

So what you are saying is Boxing mid-carders pull comparable numbers to MMA superstars?

MMA doesn't have a single person that can draw a million plus buys. Boxing has a big handful.

[Robthom]

Originally Posted by lovebuzzkurt

How do you figure? Boxing has had its its most profitable year in terms of PPV last year and that isn't all due to "old timers". I am Latino and i know for a fact ...

Says the Latino who's people have a vested interest in LW boxing (they're stealing our NHB jobs too, but I admire thier solidarity!). If latino's know so many "facts", why are so many mexicans risking death to swim to the US? Make a million dollars in mexico! Are "facts" only true on this side of the fence?
Boxing! Are the two boxer guys (names? who cares!) gonna carry the sport like mike? I doubt that! The boxing payday for that fight was a FLUKE!
Its back to the gutter for boxing (I heard DLH is gonna rematch his loss for a few more bucks). Let alone the fact that 99 percent of boxers live in the gutter anyway, and its about 1 in a million that makes the rent at it. Wrestlers and MA's have a sport here, boxing be damned!

[Punk Ass]

Originally Posted by Robthom

Says the Latino who's people have a vested interest in LW boxing (they're stealing our NHB jobs too, but I admire thier solidarity!). If latino's know so many "facts", why are so many mexicans risking death to swim to the US? Make a million dollars in mexico! Are "facts" only true on this side of the fence?
Boxing! Are the two boxer guys (names? who cares!) gonna carry the sport like mike? I doubt that! The boxing payday for that fight was a FLUKE!
Its back to the gutter for boxing (I heard DLH is gonna rematch his loss for a few more bucks). Let alone the fact that 99 percent of boxers live in the gutter anyway, and its about 1 in a million that makes the rent at it. Wrestlers and MA's have a sport here, boxing be damned!

[jrube]

I do think 1 PPV a month is a bit too much. I think they should limit the PPV to be for the title fights. I really don't want the UFC to go into overkill. Perhaps 10 very good, and i mean VERY GOOD ppv's a year. Add that with a few nice free shows on SPIKE and that would be perfect, and keep us all hungry for some more.

just my opinion.