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01-19-2008, 03:02 AM
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- SHAMROCK VS SHAMROCK IN EARLY 2009
Saturday, January 19, 2008 - by Jeff Cain - MMAWeekly.com
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Frank Shamrock will defend his Strikeforce middleweight title against Cung Le on March 29 at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Cali, but it's his bout planned for the first quarter of 2009 that's getting the most attention. Frank Shamrock confirmed that he will fight his adoptive brother and UFC Hall of Famer Ken Shamrock early next year.
"Oh yea. Unless I die, it's going to happen," the younger Shamrock told MMAWeekly.
Frank is a middleweight, 185 pounds, and Ken has fought most of his career as a heavyweight, but his most recent bouts have been in the light heavyweight division, 205 pounds. Frank revealed the two will compete at light heavyweight.
Frank said, "I do know the weight will be at 205. That's what Ken wanted. The where doesn't matter. The when will be the first quarter of 2009. The how will be right hand, left hook, right hand, and then that will be it."
The 35 year-old Strikeforce champion believes the match with the older brother that made the Shamrock name famous first will be the biggest fight in mixed martial arts history.
"It's going to be because this is the story that everyone can understand. Even if you don't like fighting, you get the story. You get the storyline. You get the characters. You get the players. I think this is what breaks our sport open to the masses, for real."
Shamrock plans to promote the fight heavily, unprecedented marketing of an MMA fight. He said, "I'm going to commentate on this next (Elite XC) event. I kind of got clued in on using the Showtime vehicle to promote these pay-per-views, these matches. In particularly we're all gearing up and focusing on the Blood Brothers: Shamrock vs. Shamrock match. We're both going to get it on, on Showtime, show our faces and build this fight the way a fight should be built."
He continued, "I've been examining the sport for a while. I think HBO has got it right for boxing, doing the 27/7 series, having a term of marketing, creating a docudrama, docu-reality type atmosphere leading up to an event. We're going to do the same with Blood Brothers. This will be the first fight that has a solid 13 to 14 months of marketing behind it and real story lines, real stars. I think this is the fight that's going to change the sport of mixed marital arts, make it more talent oriented instead of company oriented."
After all these years of back-and-forth banter between both sides, will the Shamrock feud be finally put to pasture when the two legendary combatants fight for real?
Frank Shamrock stated, "I think that's the big answer. I can tell you how I think it's going to be because I wrote the storyline, but that might be giving away the goods. I can tell you what it's not going to be. It's not going to be boring. It's not going to be not exciting. I think in the end it's going to be a loving, cathartic, family bringing together experience that everybody can understand, but it could just be a young brother kicking his older brother's a**. I don't really know."
| Man it is about time they put a date to this I think Frank is going to win I hope they go toe to toe like when Ken faught Fry that would be perfect.
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01-19-2008, 05:41 AM
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I hope it is a good fight, but I want Ken to win. Ken is kind of an asshole, and Frank IS an asshole.. So, I am hoping Ken will come out on top.
Unfortunately, this is going to be at 205.. Ken's 205 track record has been less than stellar. I still think Ken will win it though.
FYI, if anyone comes across http://www.bloodbrothersppv.com/
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01-19-2008, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Ramma I hope it is a good fight, but I want Ken to win. Ken is kind of an asshole, and Frank IS an asshole.. So, I am hoping Ken will come out on top.
Unfortunately, this is going to be at 205.. Ken's 205 track record has been less than stellar. I still think Ken will win it though.
FYI, if anyone comes across http://www.bloodbrothersppv.com/
It is fake | Ramma I totally agree with you on the asshole thing, but as much as I would rather see Ken win I do not think he has a good chance at it. I think if they fought in Ken's prime he would of walked through Frank, but I believe the only reason Frank accepted this fight finally is that Ken is on a losing track . I think his next fight should show alot about what we can expect. Do you think that they could be planning advertising suicide by wanting to promote it for so long? I mean by the time the fight comes about will anyone care, or does it seem like a good plan?
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01-19-2008, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterShake Do you think that they could be planning advertising suicide by wanting to promote it for so long? I mean by the time the fight comes about will anyone care, or does it seem like a good plan? | Personally, I think it is going to be a disaster.
1. Just use Hughes vs. Serra as a model.. and see how that turned out.
2. Ken may end up doing 2 fights and say, I don't want to do this anymore
3. Ken could lose 2 fights in a row... and then what is it going to really mean when Ken and Frank fight?
While Ken vs. Frank will have some hype among hardcore MMA fans, it will lose hype among everyone else.
Look at Couture vs. Fedor.. everyone would like to see the fight, but very few will be heart broken if it never happens, because it is just taking too long.
Liddell vs. Silva is the only fight that people managed to drool over for years. Cro Cop vs. Fedor II and Anderson Silva vs. Hendo are the only other fights that people are/were dying to see to that level.
I don't get why Frank and Ken aren't fighting after their next match (respectively)
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01-19-2008, 09:12 AM
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i picked Ken, for several reasons...
1. Like Ramma said, Frank IS an asshole! lol
2. Ken i feel is more of a legend then Frank is...
3. Ken has done more for the sport as far as exposure then Frank has.
Frank is by far the more well rounded of the two, but to see Ken snatch up a leg lock and tap Frank's ass would make me YELP! I really hope Ken wins, even if he is a crazy bastard that has been hit in the head one too many times
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01-19-2008, 09:33 AM
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LOVE Frank Shamrock. He brings a level to shit talking seldom seen. Dude's funny as hell. It makes you want to see his fights. Frank takes this one. I always saw the Frank as that other better shamrock. His fight with Enson Inoue made me a fan of him and the sport. I was so enthralled by what I saw.
GO FRANK!!!!
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01-19-2008, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ramma Personally, I think it is going to be a disaster.
1. Just use Hughes vs. Serra as a model.. and see how that turned out.
2. Ken may end up doing 2 fights and say, I don't want to do this anymore
3. Ken could lose 2 fights in a row... and then what is it going to really mean when Ken and Frank fight?
While Ken vs. Frank will have some hype among hardcore MMA fans, it will lose hype among everyone else.
Look at Couture vs. Fedor.. everyone would like to see the fight, but very few will be heart broken if it never happens, because it is just taking too long.
Liddell vs. Silva is the only fight that people managed to drool over for years. Cro Cop vs. Fedor II and Anderson Silva vs. Hendo are the only other fights that people are/were dying to see to that level.
I don't get why Frank and Ken aren't fighting after their next match (respectively) | Thats what I was thinking also it just seems like to long of a time, like u said only us true fans are really going to care, but I even sometimes get like lets just do the damn thing. I also agree with the waiting for it, what good is that going to do . I hope they throw some chumps at Ken so he doesn't look bad and to boost his confidence up a little bit, get himself a couple wins. I also can not wait for Silva vs. Hendo that is going to be awesome.
I agree with all sides in some cases. I prefer Ken as a person he is still an asshole but he is less then of an asshole, he is one of the legends for sure, Frank doesn't even come close to Ken's legacy and to what he has done for the sport. But with age and well roundedness I gotta give the edge to Frank. He is a more complete fighter, and he has been on the ball lately with his fight game. So I give it to Frank by TKO.
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01-19-2008, 09:40 AM
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Holy shit, Ken will be, what, 85 by then??
What makes Ken think he has a shot at this, he couldn't do fuck all with Tito. I think it will be much the same result.
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01-19-2008, 10:15 AM
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It'd be great if the fight finally happened, but if Frank thinks it going to be "the biggest fight in mixed martial arts history," Frankly he is delusional, got hit on the head too many times, or probably both. This match-up might have huge meaning, and understandably so, to both Shamrocks but not for the MMA world. There's nothing at stake here but their own personal unfinished business and grievances, and beyond a purely sentimental interest for the fans I don't see how it could bring the level of interest Frank is blabbing about.
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01-19-2008, 10:34 AM
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Anyone else think we are in for more Baroni-esque videos on Franks website hyping this fight. I personally thought that shit was stupid.
Either way I hope Ken wins, or Cung Le. I just want somebody to wipe the smile off Franks face.
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