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01-21-2008, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by scottsec I hate to admit it but id pay every time to see Tito get his ass kicked.. | admitting the problem is the first step towards recovery!
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01-21-2008, 05:36 PM
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damn i dunno what to think about this, the UFC really is starting to screw sh*t up all these stupid cards in europe, the loss of randy, dismissal of babalu, failure to sign fedor, the whole AA situation, poor matchmaking, i mean the list of blunders is growing larger everyday
this whole money situation is gonna blow up in their faces pretty soon you cant have the best ufc fighters making making like 5% percent of what the best boxers are getting...the fighters wont take it forever and neither will the fans
As for tito possiblely leaving thats bad news as a fan...im a fan of both lyoto and tito and am looking forward to this fight much more than i would be a rashad rematch..i kinda hope tito just dismantles lyoto just to piss Dana and the ufc off and through a giant wrench in the whole lhw division
and the ufc's plans
im about ready for change in ufc management
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01-21-2008, 05:40 PM
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#33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jmcpherson21 damn i dunno what to think about this, the UFC really is starting to screw sh*t up all these stupid cards in europe, the loss of randy, dismissal of babalu, failure to sign fedor, the whole AA situation, poor matchmaking, i mean the list of blunders is growing larger everyday
this whole money situation is gonna blow up in their faces pretty soon you cant have the best ufc fighters making making like 5% percent of what the best boxers are getting...the fighters wont take it forever and neither will the fans
As for tito possiblely leaving thats bad news as a fan...im a fan of both lyoto and tito and am looking forward to this fight much more than i would be a rashad rematch..i kinda hope tito just dismantles lyoto just to piss Dana and the ufc off and through a giant wrench in the whole lhw division
and the ufc's plans
im about ready for change in ufc management |
I really dont agree with you man...
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01-21-2008, 05:43 PM
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#34 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 808botz Are you fucken kidding me. They should stop bitching because they make more money than alot of people with normal jobs. lol They have a skill. There skills make UFC alot of money. Witch they feel they should get more of a cut of. Nothing is wrong with that. There's a payscale in every job. But you have to meet the standards to be able to get the Cash. Fighting is a Job. The fighters meet the standards. Can you train everyday and compete at a high level..Dont think so. |
I never did doubt their skills, I just stated that mma is young and over time these things will work themselves out. Soon they will be getting what they "think" they deserve and will still bitch like every other athlete in every other sport. Not to say they don't deserve a large sum of money because they do bust their asses for what they love but these complaints will be around as long as mma is around, and I have a hard time watching someone whos job is to entertain me complaining about not getting paid enough when people around them are working hard and not getting the pay they deserve.
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01-21-2008, 05:45 PM
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#35 (permalink)
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How long ago was it Tito beat a top ten LHW? Its an honest question I can't remember the exact fighter.
Anyway I know its not popular, but I don't like anything about Tito from his fighting to his personality,
So long Tito, heres one fan who won't miss you and your non-stop drama.
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01-21-2008, 06:01 PM
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#36 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jmcpherson21 damn i dunno what to think about this, the UFC really is starting to screw sh*t up all these stupid cards in europe, the loss of randy, dismissal of babalu, failure to sign fedor, the whole AA situation, poor matchmaking, i mean the list of blunders is growing larger everyday | I can't agree with some of your arguements:
Expanding into Europe - How is this bad. Sure it loses money in the begining but the in the end gives the UFC a large fanbase and overall base of operations.
The loss of Randy - Randy walked off halfway through his contract because he couldn't fight Fedor. Hardly the UFC's fault for expecting him to actually fullfill the contract he signed
Dismissal of Babalu - He held onto a choke extra long and then bragged about it. Exactly the kind of press that the UFC is trying it's hardest to not be associated with
Failure to sign Fedor - Fedor didn't like the contract and wanted a ton of things changed/special things that other fighters don't get. So negotiations fell through.
AA - according to AA's own management he has been offered atleast 2 fights that both fell through due to his opponents getting injured
Poor Matchmaking - I can give you this to a degree but matchmaking isn't always an easy task. Quote: |
this whole money situation is gonna blow up in their faces pretty soon you cant have the best ufc fighters making making like 5% percent of what the best boxers are getting...the fighters wont take it forever and neither will the fans
| This is a different financial model. The UFC takes more risk in these events and also covers more costs (along with making less money vs a giant boxing PPV), so the fighters will make less money. Quote:
As for tito possiblely leaving thats bad news as a fan...im a fan of both lyoto and tito and am looking forward to this fight much more than i would be a rashad rematch..i kinda hope tito just dismantles lyoto just to piss Dana and the ufc off and through a giant wrench in the whole lhw division
and the ufc's plans
im about ready for change in ufc management
| Sure some people will be angry about Tito leaving but can you honestly argue that he deserves more money than he is currently making?
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01-21-2008, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Diaz420 The fighters like Tito and Randy, really should not be complaining because they have more money than most people that work a normal job. | How many of those people are the best in the world at their job?
I think it's more of a problem that a guy like Machida will get like $15k for his fight... that aint shit.
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01-21-2008, 06:20 PM
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#38 (permalink)
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Tito should let his fists do the talking for him. If he finishes Lyoto, then good, he might be worth resigning, but if he goes to decision or gets beat, then he shouldn't. He makes enough as it is, especially compared to other fighters, so I really don't see his point of view. He basically made it clear on the fight with Dana, he is all about the money.
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01-21-2008, 06:22 PM
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Clint.... you consistently contribute lucid, well thought-out arguments to this forum based in fact and rational analysis, usually in response to posters who have no interest in hearing the truth, logic, intelligent discourse, or the big picture in general.
You are bursting the bubbles of tool after tool that come here to incessantly bitch about everything, without any real knowledge or concern for how real life works.
Shame on you Clint!
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01-21-2008, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TravelinMonty How many of those people are the best in the world at their job?
I think it's more of a problem that a guy like Machida will get like $15k for his fight... that aint shit. | The sport will grow and they will get paid more, these fighters know what they are geting into when they sign their contracts.
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