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Old 09-15-2006, 05:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Ahh, Prophet you just happened to bring up a fight that I replayed I don't know how many times in order to decide what I think happened. It's been awhile but this is my opinion on the matter.

I don't think Big John could've called it any other way. Hughes did not tap and there is no way John could have seen that he was out (if he was).

When Matt picked up Newton to slam him, Newton threw his arm up over the top of the cage preventing Matt from slamming him. Not allowed, but happens all the time.

Big John made Newton drop his arm and then there was a pause that seemed to go on forever with Newton propped up against the fence.

Now comes the part I watched over and over to see if Matt crumpled. It looked to me like Matt took a controlled step or two back, bent his knees and slammed Newton.

Next Newton is clearly out cold, Matt untangles himself with no delay and sits up.

Matt was acting confused and he didn't realize he had won till someone told him (don't remember if it was John or someone yelling outside the cage.) The part I'm not sure about is if Hughes was momentarily out when he slammed Newton, or if he just got his head rattled.

Being confused (as if he may have been knocked out) does not equal being knocked out, not being able to defend himself, or tapping out.

IMHO, Hughes deserved the win.
Ok...now we have a problem. I just watched the end of the fight again. Hughes did not step back. His left leg gave out first, his right leg was still in the same stance he had it in when he was propping Newton against the fence until they hit the canvass.

Now...it looks to me that Hughes was out for a few seconds after the slam. He did not respond to McCarthy telling him to get off of Newton right away. Plus, in my opinion, it looks to me that he thought he had lost the fight until
Big John informed him that he won the fight.

I do agree that there was no other way to call the match from McCarthy's point of view than the way it went down.

I think Hughes deserved to be the champion based on all the fights (seperate and against each other) the two fighters had after this fight.
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Old 09-15-2006, 06:21 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Ok...now we have a problem. I just watched the end of the fight again. Hughes did not step back. His left leg gave out first, his right leg was still in the same stance he had it in when he was propping Newton against the fence until they hit the canvass.

Now...it looks to me that Hughes was out for a few seconds after the slam. He did not respond to McCarthy telling him to get off of Newton right away. Plus, in my opinion, it looks to me that he thought he had lost the fight until
Big John informed him that he won the fight.

I do agree that there was no other way to call the match from McCarthy's point of view than the way it went down.

I think Hughes deserved to be the champion based on all the fights (seperate and against each other) the two fighters had after this fight.
FINE! I will dig the damn thing out and watch it AGAIN, but not until WEC is over!!!

Did I mention I've never liked you. (it's OK folks, weese just playin)
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Old 09-16-2006, 04:33 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Ok...now we have a problem. I just watched the end of the fight again. Hughes did not step back. His left leg gave out first, his right leg was still in the same stance he had it in when he was propping Newton against the fence until they hit the canvass.
Ok...great...now I am quoting myself. Isn't that the mark of a major asshole? Anyway..

I got my legs mixed up in the post...it was his right leg that gave out first, not his left leg.
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