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Nog HAS handled a man much bigger than him, Bob Sap is 375lbs, that's 105lbs larger than Lesenr and Sap is stronger than Lesner.
I haven't seen that fight in a long time and can't seem to find it through Google. If I remember correctly, Nog was getting manhandled for 12 or so minutes, testing the PRIDE ring floor integrity with a full body slam, and eating chocolate covered Sapp fists until he pulled the sub on Sapp. Is my memory correct?

If so, then I think my point still stands. Nog has trouble with bigger men who have a damn good chance of ending the fight through raw power.
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:27 PM   #52 (permalink)
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lol at ufc highjacking mma fans money on a normal basis... their events have been horrible. Brock Lesner gets all this hype and loses like that? And you guys are still hyping him up and want to see him fight again as if hes done something in this sport? Plz stop this bs so ufc is forced to actually put together a good card. Because if you guys havnt noticed, they are getting worse with each event because the fans are paying for anything UFC markets to yall.
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:31 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Well since you put on such great shows.....
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:50 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I haven't seen that fight in a long time and can't seem to find it through Google. If I remember correctly, Nog was getting manhandled for 12 or so minutes, testing the PRIDE ring floor integrity with a full body slam, and eating chocolate covered Sapp fists until he pulled the sub on Sapp. Is my memory correct?

If so, then I think my point still stands. Nog has trouble with bigger men who have a damn good chance of ending the fight through raw power.
It's a crappy point though because WHO doesn't struggle with bigger guys? Couture got mauled by Ricco and Barnett.

Did Nog not handily defeat Barnett in their rematch? It's just a crappy point to try adn make, all fighters aside from Fedor have somewhat of difficulties against larger fighters. Oh wait, Hunt and Hong Man had Fedor on his back and Hunt nearly finished him twice. With a bigger guy, if you cannpot get him down or impose your will upon him, you have to wear him down, and that's what Nog does, that's what Fedor does, that's what Couture does, that's what all of the greats do.

so yeah, not a good point in my opinion.
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I give Lesnar tons of credit,he had Mir in some deep deep water all the way uptil he got caught. And despite losing showed alot of respect,a good attitude,and a big hunger to come back and win.
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ok his last 3 fights went the distance... i enjoyed all 3. the Diaz fight was very good, the Florian fight was very good as well.... Franca was not as good, but i didnt hate it...

Now lets think of why.... each of the above fighters have what in common??? Right, they are all VERY good BJJ Black Belts...So what is the best way for a wrestler to beat a BJJ Black Belt? Right, good BJJ DEFENSE.

Now previous to these 3 fights, and not counting his loss to the real prodigy GSP.... Sherk finished his previous 8 fights by sub or tko...
There are none so blind as those who will not see...half of those guys are cans with losing records.

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No shame in losing to Mir at all, espically since Mir was training with that badass wrestler from Ohio State
Yeah that guy looked like he should give MMA a try.
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Rivet go fuck yourself, i can say whatever i want and state my opinion about whoever the fuck i want. Go give Steve Mazagoti some sucky sucky. Or go cry to your mommy if you don't agree with other people say. Plain and simple. Brock hit Mir 2 times and was immediately stopped, i even counted when they put it in slow-mo. I stick to my word and think that call was bullshit, he should of just gotten a warning. I see many matches and the majority of the refs gave them WARNINGS. You seem to be good at observing fights, you should go try out for commentating fights with Goldberg...And again go fuck yourself, i don't appreciate you telling me to shut the fuck up cuz your precious ref got dissed on. Man up and stop bitching.
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Rivet go fuck yourself, i can say whatever i want and state my opinion about whoever the fuck i want. Go give Steve Mazagoti some sucky sucky. Or go cry to your mommy if you don't agree with other people say. Plain and simple. Brock hit Mir 2 times and was immediately stopped, i even counted when they put it in slow-mo. I stick to my word and think that call was bullshit, he should of just gotten a warning. I see many matches and the majority of the refs gave them WARNINGS. You seem to be good at observing fights, you should go try out for commentating fights with Goldberg...And again go fuck yourself, i don't appreciate you telling me to shut the fuck up cuz your precious ref got dissed on. Man up and stop bitching.
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Brock losing was probably the best thing for him. He really thought he was some kind of monster that no one could hang with. A good humbling was what he needed.

Brock will come back better and have the right attitude as well.
i agree,i noticed on the i think it was the access show if i remember right,he acted way to over confident and paid for it
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