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02-10-2008, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sandywh  If UFC had offered what Elite had offered, or even garunteed he'd be fighting top comp right away, there is no doubt in my mind he would have jumped over. But that didn't happen.
AFter his deal w/ Bodog expired he was considered to be a top flight WW, yet UFC offered him the same 3 fight $6k per deal they had just signed Luigi Fiovaranti for. This last time around, in Novemember, they offered a 4 fight deal for about $14k per. That is still well below what established top 10 UFC WWs are getting. But, to come to UFCs defense, they did offer him a chance to be TUF contestant at one point.
Elite XC offered to pay Jake like a champion. How can anyone argue that?
Respect+Dollars = Long Term Deal
The only area that GSP is better at is the stand up game. Jake is one of the very best grapplers on the planet. Not many guys in the sport are great wrestlers and BJJ at once. Jake is. If / When a fight with GSP hit the ground, it wouldn't take long for Jake find a position to GnP or sub St.Pierre.
War SHIELDS | Could you imagine him fighting on TUF? that would be a massacre... Broken TUFfers flying all around.. LOL
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02-10-2008, 10:00 PM
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Shields on TUF would be worse then Danzig's easy time of it.
but i see GSP sprawling and brawling on Shields all day, his wrestling is just so on lately, especially as tied into his MMA game. i see him using the jab to keep Jake away and make him uncomfortable standing so he might telegraph shots, making them much easier to stop.
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02-10-2008, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sandywh To be fair. Jake has never confirmed the TUF story. One of his trainning partners at Fairtex (David Terrell if I remember right) mentioned it to a reporter that was doing a story about the anomosity between the Gracies and the UFC.
GSP has fought plenty of wrestlers and done well, but has he ever faced a BJJ guy as nearly as good as Shields? Other than Serra, because he got KO'd before he could get subbed. | What about Penn. Penn has better BJJ then Jake.
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02-10-2008, 10:05 PM
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great way to fight GSP jackass, sign a long-term deal with elite xc, if u really wanted to fight GSP u wuldnta done that, get ur ass outta ur mouth and gary shaws cock, and stop trying to co-promote to make elite xc bigger, if u really realy wanted gsp he wulda signed with the UFC, fucking bluff
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02-10-2008, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gurry great way to fight GSP jackass, sign a long-term deal with elite xc, if u really wanted to fight GSP u wuldnta done that, get ur ass outta ur mouth and gary shaws cock, and stop trying to co-promote to make elite xc bigger, if u really realy wanted gsp he wulda signed with the UFC, fucking bluff | I think this interview is old, because it makes no mention of his fight with Drew
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02-10-2008, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dork8503 I think this interview is old, because it makes no mention of his fight with Drew | You're right Dork, this is an old interview. not that Sherdog is the greatest source but this indicates that jake is now 29 years old. in the article the interviewer says that shields is just 27. WTF? My bad. Fight Finder - Jake Shields's Mixed Martial Arts Statistics
Name Jake Shields
Record 20 - 4 - 1 (Win - Loss - Draw)
Wins 3 (T)KOs (15.00%)
7 Submissions (35.00%)
10 Decisions (50.00%)
Losses 1 (T)KOs (25.00%)
3 Decisions (75.00%)
Association Cesar Gracie Jiu-Jitsu
Height 5'11 (180cm)
Weight 170lbs (77kg)
Style Wrestling / Jiu-Jitsu Birth Date 1/9/1979
Country USA
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02-11-2008, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Hunchbacked Lemur You're right Dork, this is an old interview. not that Sherdog is the greatest source but this indicates that jake is now 29 years old. in the article the interviewer says that shields is just 27. WTF? My bad. Fight Finder - Jake Shields's Mixed Martial Arts Statistics
Name Jake Shields
Record 20 - 4 - 1 (Win - Loss - Draw)
Wins 3 (T)KOs (15.00%)
7 Submissions (35.00%)
10 Decisions (50.00%)
Losses 1 (T)KOs (25.00%)
3 Decisions (75.00%)
Association Cesar Gracie Jiu-Jitsu
Height 5'11 (180cm)
Weight 170lbs (77kg)
Style Wrestling / Jiu-Jitsu Birth Date 1/9/1979
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I wasn't giving you a hard time or anything buddy. I was just saying i thought it was old, i didn't even see the 27 year old comment lol. So either this is a few years old or the interviewer is a retard lol.
good shit though
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02-11-2008, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jkilla374 He can have GSP after Serra KOs him again. | hahahaha that made my morning... I love starting the day with a nice laugh!
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02-11-2008, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sandywh To be fair. Jake has never confirmed the TUF story. One of his trainning partners at Fairtex (David Terrell if I remember right) mentioned it to a reporter that was doing a story about the anomosity between the Gracies and the UFC.
GSP has fought plenty of wrestlers and done well, but has he ever faced a BJJ guy as nearly as good as Shields? Other than Serra, because he got KO'd before he could get subbed. Quote:
Originally Posted by Dork8503 What about Penn. Penn has better BJJ then Jake. | | Penn does have better BJJ than Shields, and much better standup; but I think Sheilds size/grappling/BJJ gives GSP fits. Quote:
Originally Posted by Gurry great way to fight GSP jackass, sign a long-term deal with elite xc, if u really wanted to fight GSP u wuldnta done that, get ur ass outta ur mouth and gary shaws cock, and stop trying to co-promote to make elite xc bigger, if u really realy wanted gsp he wulda signed with the UFC, fucking bluff | Sheilds was asked a hypothetical question, which he answered. That's what people do in interviews. So, maybe you should get "ur ass outta ur mouth and GSP's cock" and spare the rest of the board your bizzare homoerotic nonsense and weak text-message rendition of incoherent, fanboy ravings.
If the UFC had been willing to pay Sheilds what he was worth, he'd be fighting there today. An argument could just as easily be made that the UFC had already invested a lot of time and money into talent that they want to protect; and so they lowballed him to keep him out of the mix and protect their rising stars. That's just as likely of a scenario as him ducking anyone.
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02-11-2008, 06:52 AM
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Shields isnt ducking anyone...he just had a chance to make some cash and took it....hes still young and im sure we'll see him move to the UFC eventually...
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