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02-18-2008, 01:44 PM
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| Bas Rutten on Ref Stoppages, Tank/Kimbo Heat, etc...
Here was some quick feedback from Bas on Kimbo and Tank. Quote:
There have been some discussion as to what happened regarding the fight. The blows to the back of the head, the pushing of the ref, and the mouthpiece/garbage. I sent one of the emails to Bas and this is his response, hopefully it will shed some light.
Tank said a lot of bad stuff about Kimbo, than two days before the fight Kimbo hears that Tank started to attack me in interviews also. He felt that was very disrespectful and got really mad, I told him to keep his cool and don't lose it because it would effect his fight in the wrong way.
So in the heat of the moment he hit him in the back of the head, trust me, I was very happy he didn't soccer kick him in the head, because to tell you the truth, I thought he was going to. Tank made it personal.
Pushing the ref I didn't see as a big thing, he is just very focused and as you can see when you watch the fight, he didn't take his eyes of Tank and the ref pushes him back, he just pushed the ref's hand of off him, he didn't push the ref. He also appologizes in the cage with his body movement towards the ref if you watch it, it will say "I am sorry".
Two guys are fighting, that's a lot of "testosterone flying around", the ref will understand this.
He didn't throw the mouthpiece from Tank or himself away, some people threw something in the cage and he simply threw it back out. But somebody makes up that it is a mouthpiece and suddenly everybody is against Kimbo, they don't even bother to watch the replay and see what it really was, nope, its Kimbo so its wrong! See what I mean?
The people on the internet have been saying bad things about Kimbo his whole career, nobody knows him personally, they just talk bad about him the whole time, so I don't really care anymore about those people, its a no win situation.
They call him a circus act, he's a nobody, he's a thug, he's just scary looking and the list goes on and on, even Kimbo said that at least he deserves a name like "Rooky" or something, not circus act, I am telling you my friend, he trains hard and does a lot for it, he is one of the most honorable persons I know, he gives all his fans attention, he does everything right. But Tank made it personal and he responded in kind.
So you are right with the puches to the head (but again, Tank made it personal) plus after the warning you saw that he listened good and just let Tank get up again.
He will be good, people have been saying that Tank is going to KO him and that if Kimbo wins this fight he finally would be considered a fighter. Now he beats Tank up and they STILL find new things, he simply can't win.
Tank probably is going to use this again as an excuse, he's a sore loser. He always said he didn't have any prepararion for his fights but this time he did had time, these are his own words.
He's also said that he performed bad in the past because his mother just passed away, when he was two years or so, ago in Japan and fought Yoshida (8-28 2005!) he told me personally that in the past he didn't do good because his mother just passed away, what? Did she pass away twice? Because he fought between there an Kimbo three fights, Yoshida, Beuntello and Gary Turner.
Saying things like that is very wrong, but he does it.
When Kimbo was staring at Tank at the press conference Tank started telling Kimbo "Its only business Kimbo, its only bussines", that's your tought guy.
There is another thing that happened between me and Tank a while ago at LAX and if he keeps talking like this I will tell that story also, I never did because he "made up" after that incident but how much more trash do I have to hear from him about me?
That's it my friend, thanks for all the props, I hope you understand now a little bit about what has been going on "back stage" so to say.
He'll be good next time, this was a great learning process so if somebody in the future makes it personal again, he will control his emotions. Remember that this is only his third pro fight. He tells in interviews that he is just a beginner when they ask him if he considers himself a top ten fighter, so he's very respectful there too. That's why I never got the "Kimbo hating" that's going on.
One funny thing, just to let you know. People ask themselves why his hair on his chest was so weird shaven, the answer, he ran out of battery power, haha, this is too funny!
That's it, Godspeed and party on!
Bas BasRutten.tv :: View topic - 2nd Ref Stoppage in Kimbo vs Tank |
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02-18-2008, 01:57 PM
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Nice to hear El Guapos point of view on the fight,and he did shed a bit of light on the situation.
But 'personal' attacks or not Kimbo really needs to watch the back of the head shit. He did it in the Cantrell fight too,which wasnt even personal.
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02-18-2008, 02:00 PM
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Good read......thanks. Now I want to know what happened at LAX????
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02-18-2008, 02:06 PM
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I like Kimbo... I admit during his debut I wanted him to lose, I wanted him to lose against Tank also, but he's proven to me he's a capable fighter. I just wanna see him fight a Legit HW... once he fights a legit HW WIN OR LOSE, I'll give Kimbo the much needed respect. I just didnt respect Kimbo because he basically just fought bums on the street.
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02-18-2008, 02:14 PM
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My take on the Kimbo heat:
People simple don't want him to succeed. He is from the streets. Came up with street fights and now is in MMA. I have read numerous post on this board in the past that have stated that if Kimbo ever got into Legit MMA fights, he would get his ass kicked. He fought 2 MMA fights (not counting ray mercer) whether you classify them as "cans" or not thats your opinion but he fought who was in front of him. IMO if he would have fought Royce Gracie and knocked him out on the feet, People would have complained about that as well..."Royce is too old"...or my favorite "if it was on the ground, Royce would have beat him"
People whats it gonna take to accept Kimbo as a Fighter and not an act? Give the guy a chance. He has done exactly what he is suppose to do. TRAIN MMA, Respect the sport, And he has a very legit and respected trainer in Bas Rutten.
He didnt come into the ring with no training and a bad attitude. He trained hard and did his job.
If you disagree with me thats cool its only an opinion. This is just mine.
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02-18-2008, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fedor Good read......thanks. Now I want to know what happened at LAX???? | I know Damnit!! I hope this comes out sooner than later lol.
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02-18-2008, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by maxp84z I like Kimbo... I admit during his debut I wanted him to lose, I wanted him to lose against Tank also, but he's proven to me he's a capable fighter. I just wanna see him fight a Legit HW... once he fights a legit HW WIN OR LOSE, I'll give Kimbo the much needed respect. I just didnt respect Kimbo because he basically just fought bums on the street. | When you say fight a legit heavyweight, are you saying he should be fighting someone top 10? Whats your definition of a legit heavyweight? Just curious.
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02-18-2008, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bas One funny thing, just to let you know. People ask themselves why his hair on his chest was so weird shaven, the answer, he ran out of battery power, haha, this is too funny! | I don't know about you, but that's the only thing I needed cleared up.
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02-18-2008, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by darkmanfb44 When you say fight a legit heavyweight, are you saying he should be fighting someone top 10? Whats your definition of a legit heavyweight? Just curious. | Top 15 or so... if he were to fight Paul B. or Mark Hunt, or Ricco... i'd classify them as legit HWs. :P
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02-18-2008, 02:27 PM
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I personally am not a big fan of Kimbo but I respect that he has shown a lot of respect to training and MMA in general. WHen it comes down to it.... I do believe eventually that match will come when all the hype surrounding him is brought to a stand still. Right now they are playing it smart banking off his already popular status from the internet world which is smart.
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