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02-19-2008, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Monsterman Barnett was coming of injury and one year layoff, and was definately out of shape in the second fight. Stylewise CC is horible matchup but none of the fights were one-sided and i donīt see why Barnett couldnīt win if they fought again in the future.
Agree about Randy fight, and i wouldnīt ever mention the fight if i was Barnett, let alone claim to be the true champ.
Barnett went to that second fight to finish, Nog went to win a decision. Barnett knocked Nog down in the first and almost subbed him in the both fights. Donīt care if Nog wins 9/10 fights like that.
Donīt care about the rankings but why should Nog be #1 when heīs 1-1 against Barnett and got his ass handed to him twice by Fedor?
I think Barnett has the best chance to beat Fedor and heīs skillwise one of the best p4p. |
Well said....
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02-19-2008, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Monsterman Barnett was coming of injury and one year layoff, and was definately out of shape in the second fight. Stylewise CC is horible matchup but none of the fights were one-sided and i donīt see why Barnett couldnīt win if they fought again in the future.
Agree about Randy fight, and i wouldnīt ever mention the fight if i was Barnett, let alone claim to be the true champ.
Barnett went to that second fight to finish, Nog went to win a decision. Barnett knocked Nog down in the first and almost subbed him in the both fights. Donīt care if Nog wins 9/10 fights like that.
Donīt care about the rankings but why should Nog be #1 when heīs 1-1 against Barnett and got his ass handed to him twice by Fedor?
I think Barnett has the best chance to beat Fedor and heīs skillwise one of the best p4p. | I guess we wont really know until Josh can fight Fedor twice too.
One thing you do have to admit though is that Nog has still never been KO'd or subbed. That is also with 2 fights with Fedor (3 if you count the NC).
The only 2 losses that weren't to Fedor were both split decisions. One split to Hendo, and one split to Barnett. He has avenged both losses. He subbed Hendo and won a unanimous decision over Josh. Barnett has had 3 chances to beat CroCop and hasn't been able to do it once.
As far as Fedor handing Nogs his ass twice? Fedor has only had 4 decisions in the last 6 years and 7 total
2 vs Nogs
1 vs CroCop
1 vs Semmy Schilt (in his first fight in Pride)
I would call what he did to everyone else (that wasn't by decision) handing them their asses. I would call what he did in those 4 fights winning.
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02-19-2008, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kc56 I guess we wont really know until Josh can fight Fedor twice too.
One thing you do have to admit though is that Nog has still never been KO'd or subbed. That is also with 2 fights with Fedor (3 if you count the NC).
The only 2 losses that weren't to Fedor were both split decisions. One split to Hendo, and one split to Barnett. He has avenged both losses. He subbed Hendo and won a unanimous decision over Josh. Barnett has had 3 chances to beat CroCop and hasn't been able to do it once.
As far as Fedor handing Nogs his ass twice? Fedor has only had 4 decisions in the last 6 years and 7 total
2 vs Nogs
1 vs CroCop
1 vs Semmy Schilt (in his first fight in Pride)
I would call what he did to everyone else (that wasn't by decision) handing them their asses. I would call what he did in those 4 fights winning. | Those Fedor vs Nog fights were completely one-sided and the only reason they went to decision was Nogs incredible chin. Against Semmy it was LnP, CC was able to fight back a little but Nog had absolutely nothing on Fedor.
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02-19-2008, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Monsterman Those Fedor vs Nog fights were completely one-sided and the only reason they went to decision was Nogs incredible chin. Against Semmy it was LnP, CC was able to fight back a little but Nog had absolutely nothing on Fedor. | Right, just like the other 25 people he has fought.
So I guess we just need to know if Josh has an incredible chin now too...
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02-19-2008, 07:27 PM
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Style wise Barnett is the best matchup for Fedor but IMO he doesnt have the Heart to beat Fedor. I think Fedor would break his will within the first 5 mins and it would be downhill from there for Barnett
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02-19-2008, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by lilp86 Style wise Barnett is the best matchup for Fedor but IMO he doesnt have the Heart to beat Fedor. I think Fedor would break his will within the first 5 mins and it would be downhill from there for Barnett | Well said.
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02-19-2008, 09:14 PM
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rather then eyeing a fight with Gracie, he should be trying to fight one of two individuals...Randy or Fedor. nuff said.
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02-19-2008, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kc56 Right, just like the other 25 people he has fought.
So I guess we just need to know if Josh has an incredible chin now too... | QUE,  I was just wondering why Nog would be #1 IF Barnett beats Fedor, not claiming he would.
A lot of people claim Barnett has no heart. Anyone want to give me at least one reason why? Nog makes Jesus look like a pussy so itīs not fair to compair anyone to him. But when did Barnett just give up?
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02-19-2008, 11:29 PM
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hilarious, he says were good friends and right after that he says he'll do his best to knock him out.
cant wait for this fight.
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02-19-2008, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by The Sundance Kid I want Roger to take it a little slower, he's only had 1 mma fight hasn't he?
He has all the potential in the world, even to be the best HW in the world. But fighting Josh in his 2nd fight isn't the way to go. | What did you see in that fight with Ron Waterman to think he could ever be the best? what I saw looked like a job..
He should be fighting at least 3 times a year last time he fought was well over a year ago, so far Kimbo has had more fights.
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