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[Brutus]

Originally Posted by Rufio

Virtually everyone considered Diego #3. Matt Serra hadn't won the title yet and I beleive this was around the time he went to a VERY controversial decision with Chris Lytle, a guy at best on the fringe of the top 10. Sakurai and Shields were outside the UFC and I don't think they were even in 170 lb divisions. Diego had just gotten wins over Parisyan, Diaz, and Riggs. He was on his way to a title shot. It wasn't a dominating win, but it was a win against a top 5.

Maybe its just me then but i never considered Diego a top 3 guy. if we are talking only UFC fighters than maybe but otherwise nope.

[scottsec]

Originally Posted by Hunchbacked Lemur

Maybe its just me then but i never considered Diego a top 3 guy. if we are talking only UFC fighters than maybe but otherwise nope.

Hell no Diego was never top 3...no freakin way...

[Kansas]

Originally Posted by Gurry

few things: hes not the best wreslter in the WW divison, neither is hughes, GSP outwrestled both of them, and made them both look like fools.

secondly: Kos vs Hughes is a fight the fans DONT wanna see.

I have to say that while you don't want to see that match, so obviously not all, but a lot of people I have talked to watced events with, and chatted with in here have said they would like to see that match. The possibility of the slam fest sounds like a fun match to watch. I for one hop eit does happen before MH checks out completly.

[The Natural994]

Originally Posted by Gurry

few things: hes not the best wreslter in the WW divison, neither is hughes, GSP outwrestled both of them, and made them both look like fools.

secondly: Kos vs Hughes is a fight the fans DONT wanna see.

Careful how you word that....While GSP did make Hughes look like a fool and did absolutely out wrestle him...I wouldn't say he made Kos look like a fool. That whole fight was 14 minutes of a kimura attempt by GSP. It was by no means big flashy slams, trips, and take downs leading to a stoppage like he used on Hughes. GSP did surprise everyone....Definately including Kos.... by coming out and literally just shooting double legs....But...I chalk that one up to a shitty gameplan by Kos and an outstanding one by GSP. I think it would be a completely different fight if they fought again. Would Kos win? Probably not.... but he wouldn't lose by being out wrestled. I doubt that will happen again.

As for Hughes v. Kos....Bad fight for Hughes. He better hope Serra loses to GSP so that fight can be set up instead. Hughes is at a point where guys like Kos, GSP, etc...Are just too athletic and basically are better at what Hughes does best.

[POINDEXTER]

Kos looked bad against GSP, no doubt about it. I wouldn't mind seeing Kos vs Hughes - I think they are both about even skill wise at this point. I don't think the fight will happen. The only way would be if Hughes saw it as an easy win and quick tune-up fight.

[lilp86]

I still refuse to like any fighter who wears low rider Jeans

[rivethead]

Disclaimer...I really don't like Kos, although I've heard from people who've met him that he's much different in person than he was/is in interviews. This interview supports that.

Originally Posted by Masscore

When Kos beat Sanchez, Diego was considered like number 3 @ WW. Some people even thought he was number 2 above Hughes. So yea, Kos has beaten a Top 5 fighter. And outside of BJ Penn, Kos is the only one in recent memory to go the distance with GSP.

BTW, in an actual wrestling match, when they arent worrying about punches and kicks from GSP. Kos and Hughes would kill him. There is a difference between wrestling and MMA. Just because GSP outwrestled them in an MMA does not mean he would even last the entire match in a wrestling match.

Although I never believed his hype, Diego fell very fast and very far. I always felt his resume was inflated, but just about everywhere had him top 5 going into the Kos fight, with many as high as 3. I'm often stunned by other people's rankings.

Originally Posted by Rufio

Virtually everyone considered Diego #3. Matt Serra hadn't won the title yet and I beleive this was around the time he went to a VERY controversial decision with Chris Lytle, a guy at best on the fringe of the top 10. Sakurai and Shields were outside the UFC and I don't think they were even in 170 lb divisions. Diego had just gotten wins over Parisyan, Diaz, and Riggs. He was on his way to a title shot. It wasn't a dominating win, but it was a win against a top 5.

If you change #3 to "from top 5 to top 3," I agree without reservation.

Originally Posted by Hunchbacked Lemur

Maybe its just me then but i never considered Diego a top 3 guy. if we are talking only UFC fighters than maybe but otherwise nope.

I've never liked him [or Kos, for that matter], but Diego was minimally ranked top 5 going into the Kos fight...and I think that was the initial discussion.

I'd also point out that Kos looked much better vs. GSP than Hughes did. I'm not going to get into the nonsense about getting "outwrestled" in an MMA match, but I think anyone who thinks Kos was made to look foolish needs to watch that fight again...GSP fought an incredibly conservative fight. It was effective, but he clearly wanted no part of standing with Kos. I'm sure some of his fans will interpret that as "he wanted to beat him at his own game" or something, but Kos had been focusing on striking, not grappling, and is still learning to adapt.

I'd also say that Kos has shown at least as much tangible improvement in his game as GSP has--specific to filling holes in his skillset, and not covering with sheer athleticism--and while I don't like him at all, we haven't seen the best he's got to offer.

Kos takes Hughes 7 out of 10, at this point in their respective careers.

rh

[Masscore]

Originally Posted by rivethead

I'd also point out that Kos looked much better vs. GSP than Hughes did. I'm not going to get into the nonsense about getting "outwrestled" in an MMA match, but I think anyone who thinks Kos was made to look foolish needs to watch that fight again...GSP fought an incredibly conservative fight. It was effective, but he clearly wanted no part of standing with Kos. I'm sure some of his fans will interpret that as "he wanted to beat him at his own game" or something, but Kos had been focusing on striking, not grappling, and is still learning to adapt.

I'd also say that Kos has shown at least as much tangible improvement in his game as GSP has--specific to filling holes in his skillset, and not covering with sheer athleticism--and while I don't like him at all, we haven't seen the best he's got to offer.

Kos takes Hughes 7 out of 10, at this point in their respective careers.

rh

I agree with pretty much everything u said here. I will admit though, I am probably one of the few that like Kos, but that may be because I remember watching him wrestle in college. I also like him because he made Diego look stupid and I dislike Diego. I also agree that I think when it comes to MMA in the few short years he has been involved, Kos has grown more then any other fighter. I think in a rematch with GSP for the title, which will happen before this year is done. I think Kos makes it more of a match, maybe even pulls off the win if he comes in with a better gameplan.

Either way by this time next year, he will be considered the Number 2 or 1 WW in the world.

And oh yea, as much as like Hughes, if they fought today I think Kos beats him.