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[Palma]

Originally Posted by Mungo

So Eddie Bravo was just hating Tito? Cause he scored the fight the same way I did.

Eddie Bravo also said he agreed with Bisping vs. Hamill Decision... He said he doesn't believe Takedowns should be weighed so heavily with points...

What exactly did Forrest do to win rounds 2 and 3? Defend takedowns? It was a close fight but Tito won... It still amazes me how hardcore MMA fans can be so biased against Tito for being the most well know MMA fighter.

[jlruthven84]

Originally Posted by Palma

Eddie Bravo also said he agreed with Bisping vs. Hamill Decision... He said he doesn't believe Takedowns should be weighed so heavily with points...

What exactly did Forrest do to win rounds 2 and 3? Defend takedowns? It was a close fight but Tito won... It still amazes me how hardcore MMA fans can be so biased against Tito for being the most well know MMA fighter.

I'm biased against Tito 'cause he's a complete ass-hat.

I get your point, though. The guy irritates me, but only because he (to use a favorite phrase) uses his mouth to write checks that his skills can't cash anymore. And like I've said before, I think he's still completely up to it, but he just doesn't care enough about it anymore. Most of the guys in the LHW division now have the skills to beat someone like him, and he just can't come to terms with that.

[Palma]

Originally Posted by jlruthven84

I'm biased against Tito 'cause he's a complete ass-hat.

I get your point, though. The guy irritates me, but only because he (to use a favorite phrase) uses his mouth to write checks that his skills can't cash anymore. And like I've said before, I think he's still completely up to it, but he just doesn't care enough about it anymore. Most of the guys in the LHW division now have the skills to beat someone like him, and he just can't come to terms with that.

I agree to an extent... Tito fell out of favor with me when talked shit about Tanner after he beat the crap out of him, but other then Shamrock he hasn't talked shit about any other fighter in years.

And as far as not backing it up: I don't remember him talking shit about Liddell or Couture and those are his only losses in the last 10 years...

[Marlo Black]

I have a question, strictly hypothetical:

If Ortiz finishes Machida, will there still be talk of ...
- when was the last time Tito finished anyone other than Ken Shamrock, or under 40, or whatever?
- when was the last time Tito beat someone in the top 10, top 5?

Curious.

Originally Posted by Marlo Black

I have a question, strictly hypothetical:

If Ortiz finishes Machida, will there still be talk of ...
- when was the last time Tito finished anyone other than Ken Shamrock, or under 40, or whatever?
- when was the last time Tito beat someone in the top 10, top 5?

Curious.

haters are always gonna hate..that's just the way it is. I'm actually giving Tito a good chance to win this fight. I dont think Machida can stop his takedowns and I also dont think he can sub Tito either regardless of whether he's a blackbelt in bjj. It doesnt really matter either way whether or not Tito wins or loses because he's leaving the UFC. The top LHW competiton is in the UFC, so obviously Tito doesnt really give a damn ab fighting anymore.

[POINDEXTER]

Originally Posted by Marlo Black

I have a question, strictly hypothetical:

If Ortiz finishes Machida, will there still be talk of ...
- when was the last time Tito finished anyone other than Ken Shamrock, or under 40, or whatever?
- when was the last time Tito beat someone in the top 10, top 5?

Curious.

Possibly not.

[blah]

not very smart...tito is a wrestler, and silva has never gone for a takedown before in his ufc career.

[ortiz#1]

Originally Posted by Hunchbacked Lemur

I gotta agree w/ ya here. Tito has battled w/ chuck, who beat him 2x, and wrestlers like Couture and Rashaad(i still think rashaad won the fight) have given him fits in the past. he needs to work his guard if you ask me.

you think rashad won that fight , you have to be kidding , the guy did nothing the whole fight except for the last 15 sec. of the fight , he had great tk down defence thats it oh ya and he thumb tito under the eye perfect finger nail imprint on titos eye, im a big ortiz fan if tito comes prepared he beats machida by dec or tko , tito will be the biggest and the best wrestler lyoto has ever faced and dont say he is going to sub tito , not going to happen , im betting once tito has him down lyoto is going to get hammered like forrest did in the first round ! but can lyoto take the punishment that forrest did and keep on ticking? i doubt it !!!!!

[Masscore]

Originally Posted by Marlo Black

I have a question, strictly hypothetical:

If Ortiz finishes Machida, will there still be talk of ...
- when was the last time Tito finished anyone other than Ken Shamrock, or under 40, or whatever?
- when was the last time Tito beat someone in the top 10, top 5?

Curious.

The talk right now should be, when has someone with the a last name other then Liddell or Couture beaten him.

Oh yea, a long long time.