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02-29-2008, 04:51 PM
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| Most evolved wrestlers
Who out there do you think are the fighters that have wrestling as their strongest point have evolved the other aspects of their game the most. This card got me thinking cuz it has Kos on it and Jake O'Brian, of the latter recently said something to the effect of "I've always got my wrestling to fall back on".
Like who do you think has the best stand up game or submission game?
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02-29-2008, 05:56 PM
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i would have to say Gilbert Melendez or KID Yamamoto. very game wrestlers who i have yet to see revert straight to wrestling, they have game standing up and in terms of grappling and defensive game.
i would mention Jon Fitch but in his fight with Roan Carneiro, i saw him revert to wrestling as soon as he got taken down and then later threatened by a sub. excellent fighter, but not totally evolved past wrestling.
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02-29-2008, 06:01 PM
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Chuck, he only uses his wrestling now to avoid getting taken down.
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02-29-2008, 06:07 PM
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I, as well, am going to have to go with Chuck for using his wrestling, but not just to get his opponents on the ground.
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02-29-2008, 06:14 PM
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i will have to change my vote, lol. Chuck relies so little on his wrestling that I forgot he was a high caliber wrestler. thats evolution as a fighter, lol.
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02-29-2008, 06:23 PM
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Babalu or Melendez, Chuck is a good one too. Can't really think of any others
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02-29-2008, 06:25 PM
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Jake Shields he has a bit to go but if he keeps going at this pace he will completely well rounded.
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02-29-2008, 06:25 PM
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I think Chuck and Gomi fit more of the relm of wrestlers who have broken away from the wrestling category
Jon Fitch would be a good example of an evolved wrestler
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02-29-2008, 06:28 PM
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Is he implying guys that "Broke away" from wrestling or have evolved their fighting from a Wrestling base??
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02-29-2008, 06:44 PM
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I was going to say Chuck as well, but I thought there would be some complaints about his perceived one dimensionality.
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