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03-02-2008, 09:42 AM
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[QUOTE=pa99fighter;413257]I'd like to see him fight Patrick Cote or Jorge Rivera[/QUO
good call man!
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03-02-2008, 09:52 AM
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Okami should get the next title shot...it's the only fight that makes sense.
Henderson/Franklin would be an outstanding fight. And Hendo/Wandi III at MW would be amazing.
I'd like to see Tanner get some momentum before he faces Henderson...if Tanner can string a few wins together first, that fight becomes far more interesting to me. As it stands now, I don't want either of them to lose their next fight.
I'd also love to see Dan knock Bisping off his protected pedestal.
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03-02-2008, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LookitsLance So you don't think he won the first round? seems to me he won the first round, and to me, if you won 1 round, your winning the fight so far, but what do i know | dans hammer fists were poundin on silva he was pressing the first round took him down dan def won the first round...i think if dan had held out that last 20 sec he wold have ended up winning. but with that said silva should move up and and fight chuck...see what its like to fight a fighter who can punch going backing up. moving down is stupid we will dominate all the shorter guys with his clinch....he needs to move up
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03-02-2008, 10:51 AM
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I like Henderson, but he did not have a chance of winning this fight. Anderson is just to versatile in every aspect of fighting. Think about this; have we ever seen Anderson even once rocked by a punch? Henderson has never been knocked out and he was rocked twice in the match. Henderson could only have beaten him by points. But Anderson could have knocked him out, submitted him at any point. I think Anderson is going to call out Wandy and beat him up first. Then he is going to challenge for the LHW belt and he is going to take that belt as well. The only thing we don't know about Anderson is his cardio. Anderson is a bad match up style wise for Rampage at this point. Someone said that St Pierre should fight Anderson. He will kill St Pierre in two rounds or less. At this point Anderson has to move up a weight class for a challenge.
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03-02-2008, 11:30 AM
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Hendo did make a mistake and it was in his gameplan. He didn't respect Anderson's clinch. As a result he got kneed in the face and subsequently choked out. If he didn't get so caught up in trying to brawl with Silva to prove he wasn't afraid and actually stuck to his wrestling and grecko clinch then he would've been fine. That first round was how he should've fought the entire fight. Stay away, throw a combination when he charges in, but keep the takedown your #1 priority. That's really the only way to beat Silva.
The guy isn't invincible. Round 1 proved he can be controlled.
With all that said he's the undisputed #1 P4P fighter in the world at this point. Good luck Okami.
As for Dan, I see him fighting another MW contender. I doubt they want to kill Tanner's confidence even more at this point. Leben would be a good opponent. I'm going to guess they hold off on having Hendo face Franklin because if/when Silva beats Okami and decides to move up they'll need a marquee matchup for the vacant title. Plus maybe Hendo gets a rematch with Silva after a few wins. A loss to Franklin would rule out that possibility, because we know Rich ain't getting another shot.
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03-02-2008, 12:13 PM
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Here's how I see the MW division title picture playing out over the next 6-12 months.
Spider vs Okami (Spider gets a chance to avenge the DQ loss in Pride) next
Around the same time, Hendo vs Franklin/Lutter (I can't see Lutter winning this one so let's assume Franklin wins)
Now assuming that Spider beats Okami, and assuming that Hendo beats Rich... this sets the stage for Silva vs Hendo II. Some might say no, it would be too soon. But Dan isn't getting any younger and there really isn't another legit threat to Silva at this point in time.
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03-02-2008, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dork8503 Sure Henderson won the first round but he did no damage doing so.
Also people forget that Lutter prob took their first round, an Nate was doing good for a few minutes in the first round too.
Then second round Anderson came out a different fighter an put Henderson away.
Hendo didn't make a mistake, Anderson is just a deadly nasty man.
Also i do not see anyone giving Anderson props on defending the take downs, well the attempted ones in the second. The first he was taken down out of an exchange. Either way Anderson hurt Hendo, seeing that people said Hendo has a iron chin, well Anderson dented that iron, ended up on top an i knew it was over at that point.
Something else, Rampage in 5 rounds couldn't do what Anderson did in 2. | I couldn't agree more. Silva just kind of sized up Henderson the first round and then got stuck on the bottom for the rest of the round. In round 2 he had a killer look to him and took it to Hendo. He was composed and picked his shots while Hendo was swinging wildly like Wandy. The second he hurt Dan standing, I saw the end coming. Quote:
Originally Posted by danzig187 i think if dan had held out that last 20 sec he wold have ended up winning. | Yeah, if only Dan's brain didn't need oxygen or blood... The nerve of him
I didn't see things getting better from that point for Dan. Silva hurt him bad on the feet and controlled him on the ground.
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03-02-2008, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Adambomb Hendo did make a mistake and it was in his gameplan. He didn't respect Anderson's clinch. As a result he got kneed in the face and subsequently choked out. If he didn't get so caught up in trying to brawl with Silva to prove he wasn't afraid and actually stuck to his wrestling and grecko clinch then he would've been fine. That first round was how he should've fought the entire fight. Stay away, throw a combination when he charges in, but keep the takedown your #1 priority. That's really the only way to beat Silva.
The guy isn't invincible. Round 1 proved he can be controlled.
With all that said he's the undisputed #1 P4P fighter in the world at this point. Good luck Okami.
As for Dan, I see him fighting another MW contender. I doubt they want to kill Tanner's confidence even more at this point. Leben would be a good opponent. I'm going to guess they hold off on having Hendo face Franklin because if/when Silva beats Okami and decides to move up they'll need a marquee matchup for the vacant title. Plus maybe Hendo gets a rematch with Silva after a few wins. A loss to Franklin would rule out that possibility, because we know Rich ain't getting another shot. | I agree pretty much on all points. I'm a big Hendo fan but I was already troubled by his pre-fight interviews where he kept talking about never being knocked-out and not afraid to bang. I was relieved when he took Silva down from a clinch and worked him on the ground. Then he comes out and exchanges like he's got something to prove instead of winning the fight. I was pissed! He got caught with a few strikes; I don't remember a knee but he was definitely rocked. And he turns instead of staying on his stomach. With all those years of experience and months of preparation, including tall Muay Thai fighters, he says he did not execute his plan well. No shit. It's a fucking championship fight you only get a few of in your career. What would it have taken to stick to the plan? That's perhaps what bothered me almost as much as him losing the fight. Seems like everybody here has been in consensus how Henderson could have won this fight, except for Henderson himself.
Btw, what was it with Silva talking about Franklin being the "real" or "true" champion? Silva destroyed Rich in both fights making him look like a rookie fighter. He did not do it to Henderson. I thought it was a little disrespectful despite his disclaimer to the contrary.
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03-02-2008, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by marekny144 Btw, what was it with Silva talking about Franklin being the "real" or "true" champion? Silva destroyed Rich in both fights making him look like a rookie fighter. He did not do it to Henderson. I thought it was a little disrespectful despite his disclaimer to the contrary. | Hendo was never the UFC champ. Franklin was and he was the champ for a long time.
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03-02-2008, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimson Hendo was never the UFC champ. Franklin was and he was the champ for a long time. | Hendo was the UFC 17 Tournament Champ, and Franklin wasn't the champ for that long.
But yeah, Hendo vs. Ace is the obvious next step, unless Lutter wins
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