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[KnowledgeKnown]

Originally Posted by atj-lucko

I don't know that Fedor could win in a cage and with UFC rules ie elbows to a ground opponent.Now in a ring under Pride rules I take Fedor.
I just don't think Fedor can handle a cage.

I actually understand the logic behind this, but I don't agree when it comes to Fedor. I know he's kind of been out of top notch action for awhile, but let not your heart be troubled... Fedor will prove to still be the best p4p fighter in the world, in the ring, in the octagon, on the mat, on the street, wherever.
I believe once in a generation, sometimes every other generation we see someone of this ability. I just have a distinct feeling it won't matter where he fights. I mean i'm trying to picture what happened to Cro Crop happening to Fedor. I can't. I just can't. Anything can happen, but I think he comes in to the UFC, mops up, and retires.
By the way i'm not really huge Fedor fan, but him finally coming to the UFC would be great for this sport. The mainstream needs to know about Fedor Emelianenko.

[Dimson]

Originally Posted by atj-lucko

Most U.S. Americans such as.. non-hardcore UFC fans don't know who Fedor is.
If they signed him I would suggest they put him on tuf let people see who he is and how good he is.
It would be instant creditably and he would have an immediate following.
He's not a draw in the U.S.

Also what if Elite signs him? that would be sweet.
Unlike UFC Elite knows how to promote a fighter look at Kimbo, and look at what the UFC did how they killed Houston's run.

So what you are saying is the UFC killed Houston's run? I think is was more that Silva killed his run. What you are proposing is that Elite sign Fedor and promote him and treat him like Kimbo? So what you are saying is that the feed him cans that won't even last the first round with him just so he can have an impressive record. That is why I like the UFC, they don't protect or baby anyone. I mean they gave Brock as his first fight, Frank fucking Mir. Which not only was a bad matchup experience wise but stylistically wise as well. If Fedor comes into the UFC he is going to be fed to the wolves. No cans for him. Straight to fighting Randy or Nog. But if he signed with Elite this will put him against Johnny no name because that is what boxing promoters do, they set their meal tickets up with cans so they can domminate their opponents and knock them out. No promoter wants his meal ticket fighting anyone who has a good chance of beating them or at very least is a bad matchup with their fighter stylistically. So if Fedor goes to elite expect to be disappointed and expect him to be fighting alot more cans.

[Mean]

Originally Posted by atj-lucko

Why would Dana sign Fedor? he's a farce and is not even a top ten HW according Dana.

He likes to taunt. His hopeful reaction is, "He said what? I'll show him. Where do I sign?"

Unfortunately, it probably won't have that effect. But one can hope.

G

[rugoatee]

Originally Posted by ChuckBooty

If they sign Fedor I don't think they CAN have him fight Randy without fighting Nog first. Nog is the interm champion. Technically Randy would have to unify the belt by beating Nog and THEN face Fedor.

The UFC can do whatever the hell they want. It is their org, their belts, their fighters. If they wanted Fedor/Randy to fight a gorilla, they could do it (if it is approved by the athletic commission). Makes no sense to have a tune up fight for either Randy or Fedor. People are saying it is not fair to Nog. Who cares what is fair? Life isn't fair. UFC cares about what will make money and they would not risk the payoff of the big fight to have tune ups for either guy. They will just give Nog a shot at the winner, unless he retires.

I think Fedor is starting to realize that signing for big money with a small org is a recipe for disaster. Ask Lindland how that worked out.

If Fedor has any kind of competitive drive and wants to be the best, there is only one place where he can prove it, and there is only one place that he can be assured he willa ctually get all the money he agrees to.

I find it almost impossible to belive the passive role he has taken in his contract negotiations. White said during all the negotiations, he never personally met with Fedor once. Unbelieveable. No wonder they didn't get anywhere with the management. Fedor will continue to be taken for the proverbial "ride" by his management if he doesn't take more of an active role in the negotiations.

[CJRockstar]

Originally Posted by KnowledgeKnown

I actually understand the logic behind this, but I don't agree when it comes to Fedor. I know he's kind of been out of top notch action for awhile, but let not your heart be troubled... Fedor will prove to still be the best p4p fighter in the world, in the ring, in the octagon, on the mat, on the street, wherever.
I believe once in a generation, sometimes every other generation we see someone of this ability. I just have a distinct feeling it won't matter where he fights. I mean i'm trying to picture what happened to Cro Crop happening to Fedor. I can't. I just can't. Anything can happen, but I think he comes in to the UFC, mops up, and retires.
By the way i'm not really huge Fedor fan, but him finally coming to the UFC would be great for this sport. The mainstream needs to know about Fedor Emelianenko.

I hate the term pound for pound because honestly its really impossible to guage that if you leveled out the weight and reach advantage playing field how fedor would stand up to an anderson silva or a georges st pierre. Fedor is strong and smart, but I think St Pierre would out cardio and kill him with the quickness. And Anderson Silva, well, he just starts to impress me more with every fight, so I can imagine in maybe 6-10 fights Anderson putting down Fedor in an even match. Its a shame we'll never get to see those fights.

[Dimson]

Originally Posted by rugoatee

The UFC can do whatever the hell they want. It is their org, their belts, their fighters. If they wanted Fedor/Randy to fight a gorilla, they could do it (if it is approved by the athletic commission). Makes no sense to have a tune up fight for either Randy or Fedor. People are saying it is not fair to Nog. Who cares what is fair? Life isn't fair. UFC cares about what will make money and they would not risk the payoff of the big fight to have tune ups for either guy. They will just give Nog a shot at the winner, unless he retires.

I think Fedor is starting to realize that signing for big money with a small org is a recipe for disaster. Ask Lindland how that worked out.

If Fedor has any kind of competitive drive and wants to be the best, there is only one place where he can prove it, and there is only one place that he can be assured he willa ctually get all the money he agrees to.

I find it almost impossible to belive the passive role he has taken in his contract negotiations. White said during all the negotiations, he never personally met with Fedor once. Unbelieveable. No wonder they didn't get anywhere with the management. Fedor will continue to be taken for the proverbial "ride" by his management if he doesn't take more of an active role in the negotiations.

I agree with everything you said. Rep'd. It is their company and it is not like they are taking the belt from Nog. He is the champ and any fool can see that Randy clearly does not even care about the belt. He just wants Fedor.

[zana1126]

I think the fight between Fedor and Randy will happen, but it will happen in Dream. I dont think Fedor will sign with the UFC. I love MMA, but there is one only thing I really hate: the word unification doesn't exist in this sport.

[jcmichaels42]

Ughh....I think I'm just gonna boycott any news about Fedor and/or Randy Couture. Someone just PM me when there is finally some kind of solution!