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09-29-2006, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Quick_Handed_Vitor Riggs need to move up to Middle Weight to get some of his size back he just looks small as a welterweight big but small. But... if he stays in WW he should stay away from Hughes for awhile Talking all that trash and getting subbed in 3 minutes hurt his record. He should fight Karo or Diego. Forget about josh I went back and watched my tapes of some of his past fight and I changed my mind. if Matt beats GSP he should go to pride fight a few fights there let UFC build it's WW or MW division back up and then come back after handling some business in Pride. I am a matt Hughes fan for sure but he needs to go up to MW or go to Pride He has just killed the credibility of the WW division by defeating all of it's top contenders. Though people like him he's eventually not going to be that big of a thing so he should leave while he's on top in the fan's minds.
So here's my advice to Matt Fight against GSP and if you lose go to pride.
That's all i got to say. JR OUT!!! | I really dont see how one person remaining champ at a weight level kills the credibility of the weight class. WW is by far the most stacked weight division in the UFC right now with tons of quality fighters and numerous ones that deserve title shots in the near future. Does the fact that Fedor has mutilated all the Pride HWs make them any worse? No, in fact its the most talented group of fighters in any weight class, for any organization, in the world. Just because Hughes has been a great champ doesnt diminish the competition he has fought. Hes not top 3 P4p fighters in the world for nothin.
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09-29-2006, 11:25 AM
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Why does the UFC have to build up its welterweight class? They have the best three in the world in Hughes, GSP, and Penn. Then add diego, karo, diaz, koscheck, riggs. Who does pride have at WW?
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09-29-2006, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Soul_Edge Why does the UFC have to build up its welterweight class? They have the best three in the world in Hughes, GSP, and Penn. Then add diego, karo, diaz, koscheck, riggs. Who does pride have at WW? | Okay, i wasn't even going to bother with this post but KOSCHECK?!?!
How the hell does Koscheck get mentioned by all these people?
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09-29-2006, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chungt79 Okay, i wasn't even going to bother with this post but KOSCHECK?!?!
How the hell does Koscheck get mentioned by all these people? | haha Chung you crack me up. Your always knockin on Koscheck lol. But hey I agree with you, he's a good wrestler but other than that hes just boring.
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09-29-2006, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Soul_Edge Why does the UFC have to build up its welterweight class? They have the best three in the world in Hughes, GSP, and Penn. Then add diego, karo, diaz, koscheck, riggs. Who does pride have at WW? | PRIDE doesn't have a 170 lb division. Welcome to MMA.
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09-30-2006, 08:28 AM
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Koscheck vs. Hughes in a wrestling match would be good but Kosckeck is like hughes was when he first started an agressive wrestler he needs to train like matt did to become better.
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09-30-2006, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by j.farrell karo should def get a shot at some point..they cant give him a shot before diego tho..that wouldnt be right..id love to watch koscheck get mangled by huhges..and im a big fan of riggs..but lets be honest..do any of these guys really have a chance..i think nick diaz could probably make it to a desicion..but he would lose for sure | Right now they could maybe be competitive early on ,but I agree they'd probably lose(with the exception of Karo I could see him pulling off an upset) ,but you have to understand that they're still very young and improving.Look at how me talented UFC WW's that are still in there 20s-Diaz,GSP,Karo,Diego,Koscheck,Riggs.These guys will all get better.The UFC WW division will always be stacked.It's not going anywhere.
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09-30-2006, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NinjaShogunRua PRIDE doesn't have a 170 lb division. Welcome to MMA. | hahahahaha you just took the words right out of my mouth. This thread got bumped up so I was checking it out shaking my head. Thinking exactly what you posted. Hahahahaha.
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10-01-2006, 01:05 PM
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I think people are overlooking the fact that in the UFC's TV audience distorted "title picture", Koscheck is a rising star, maybe only a rung below Sanchez to some people. We all know he isn't a real contender, but this is an MMA discussion forum, not a livingroom filled with Joe Blows who think the sport is called Ultimate Fighting. That being said, I hope they put on a Sanchez vs. Koscheck "eliminator" bout because I think that particular matchup is intriguing. Karo Parisyan vs. Nick Diaz 2 also makes a lot of sense at this point to sort out the upper middle part of the WW division.
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