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Kurt angle is a DAMN athlete....I can't believe your arguing that the gold metal winner in the olympics is not an athlete. You know better than that. You sure you just not looking for an argument?
You betcha...Angle was one of the best wrestlers this country has ever produced. However, I would have to agree with you, 'hustla...time may have passed Angle by in this sport. 38 is awfully late to come to this game, even for someone with his pedigree... (sorry, Mastiff, couldn't resist the WWE jab) ;0) But I would find an Angle-Couture match very interesting...at least from a grappling standpoint!

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Kurt Angle is the exception not the rule. I will give credit where it is due. GOld medalist can't really argue with that.

However, given todays mma athletes ability there is not ONE and I mean Zero pro wrestler that I want to see in MMA. If Angle would have went MMA 10 years ago maybe a different story.

I guess my thing is this is an MMA forum. If I wanted to talk about wrasslers I would go to a wrasslin forum.

On a side note I might be inclined to watch a wrassler mix it up with the likes of Fedor just to shut them all up. That would be so much worse than Rickson vs Takada which was the last time a pro wrassler got into the squared circle with a real fighter and that lasted what a minute adn a half?
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Kurt Angle is the exception not the rule. I will give credit where it is due. GOld medalist can't really argue with that.

However, given todays mma athletes ability there is not ONE and I mean Zero pro wrestler that I want to see in MMA. If Angle would have went MMA 10 years ago maybe a different story.

I guess my thing is this is an MMA forum. If I wanted to talk about wrasslers I would go to a wrasslin forum.

On a side note I might be inclined to watch a wrassler mix it up with the likes of Fedor just to shut them all up. That would be so much worse than Rickson vs Takada which was the last time a pro wrassler got into the squared circle with a real fighter and that lasted what a minute adn a half?
i think that lashley guy could do mma, you cant overlook his military back ground
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Kurt Angle is about the only wrassler I'm familiar with except for old school guys. I stopped watching that about 10 years ago. I have no idea who lashley is nor do I particularly care.
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Kurt Angle is about the only wrassler I'm familiar with except for old school guys. I stopped watching that about 10 years ago. I have no idea who lashley is nor do I particularly care.
the only person i see in mma with power and strength to match lashly's is monson, and like i said, you cant under estimate his experience as a u.s. army seargent
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there is a difference from being athletic and being a true athlete.

Athletes compete for pride, money, honor, etc.

Hell wesley snipes is athletic but he is by no means an athlete.

Wrestlers are athletic but not athletes. they are actors much the same as wesley snipes or any other number of athletic actors.
Try teling that to Lawrence Taylor who climbed in the ring for Wrestlemania (whatever) he gave an interview about it afterwards and he was in great shape back then...he said he could never become a proffessional wrestler because of the fact they were in great shape...athlete is defined as a professional that compeats...just because the outcome is fake doesn't mean they take hella bumbs.
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Try teling that to Lawrence Taylor who climbed in the ring for Wrestlemania (whatever) he gave an interview about it afterwards and he was in great shape back then...he said he could never become a proffessional wrestler because of the fact they were in great shape...athlete is defined as a professional that compeats...just because the outcome is fake doesn't mean they take hella bumbs.
Amen!!, and I hate wrestling (because it's staged)
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Amen!!, and I hate wrestling (because it's staged)
I don't like how staged it has gotten lately...but i do give them props for some of the bumbs they take...i can't imagine how bad some spots feel
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actually rumor has it that the UFC wants to set up Kurt Angle vs. Daniel Puder...anyone who has watched Smackdown in the last couple years knows where that stems from...
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Not sure that this thread started as a tribute to wrasslin' (JR comment aside). I see the lines possibly getting a bit blurred over time. Yes, WWE and other "pro wrestling" shows are fake but that's where the money is. An unfortunate fact is that a mid-level "fake wrestler" can (and does) make more money than guys in the MMA world.

Training regiments will also become more inter-twined as wresting "fans" will want to see more "realistic action" like Thai boxing, jujitsu, etc. and the egos will always be there (I'm a bad ass 'rassler and could do this MMA thing...).

Truth is, Mastiff, there aren't many 'rasslers who could last with someone trained in the art of MMA. But there are a few...like Angle and possibly guys like Lashley, Lesnar and a few others.

Earlier, I didn't give Angle much of a chance due to his age but I think I need to take a step back. Hell, Ken Shamrock is still fighting at what, 42? Randy hung-up the gloves at 43? Geez, Tank Abbott is still bouncing around out there, isn't he?

My god, if Rashard Evans can cash a UFC paycheck, guys like Angle most certainly could. He's got a killer work ethic and would be a definite success. While he may not survive against a Liddell, Cro Cop, etc., Iwould like to see him make a run at it.

It would certainly liven up these boards!


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